TharnType: A série (2019)

Story: the story focuses on the growth of the feelings of the two protagonists. there are no secondary lines to distract the main plot

Acting\Cast: excellent choice Mew and Gulf. perfect chemistry. true love.

Music: well managed. it takes hold immediately and never goes away. even if you don't like songs in Thai you will find yourself humming

Rewatch Value: reviewed 3 times so far

OVERALL: I believed in this series from the first moment. I loved the chemistry between the characters and the construction of the story. I cried, smiled, hated and loved with them. I am happy that Mew met Gulf.

Leia Mais

Meh

I'll start by saying that I agree with a lot of what the reviewers who rated this on the mid- to low-level scale said, so I'd definitely recommend checking out their reviews to see their thoughts on it. So that I don't echo what's already been said, I'll incorporate those reviews here and throw in my additional two cents.

In the grand scheme of Thai BLs, I'd say this drama is rather indistinguishable from and reminiscent of many of its predecessors: same male leads (one is demure yet sexually inappropriate while the other is angsty and gay-for-you); same plot devices (sexual assault is inconsistently used as a tool to both identify and villify "evil" characters while also romanticized to foster and facilitate romance between two "lovable" characters); and same, average writing and storytelling that by the end of the drama makes you realize that not a whole lot has happened. I wish more of the drama had been devoted to Tharn and Tar's backstory, rather than repetitive scenes between Tharn and Type that didn't really add to the story (yes, I know they're the show's namesakes, but still), or even between Tum and Tar. But after finishing the drama, I'm struggling to remember what the bulk of episodes were about; most of the action came in the last few episodes, but by that point, I had already lost a lot of interest.

In terms of acting, I was pleasantly surprised with how well everyone did, even the newer faces. That said, a lot of the characters felt stiff and one-dimensional. As much as I love MewGulf's off-screen chemistry, I have to say I grew rather tired of Type's constant jealous moodiness and Tharn's saccharine doting. I also felt like they went from enemies to lovers in the blink of an eye, and their on-screen chemistry (or lack thereof) suffered because of it. I didn't feel any yearning or heat, and I'm a bit over the superficial "I'm a sex god and therefore you will fall for me" trope.

Overall, not the worst but not the best. It wouldn't be the first drama I'd recommend, but it's moderately entertaining if you don't have anything else to watch.

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"It is one thing to get BL fans gushing and swooning over how cute a series is. But to have the BL community TALKING AND DEBATING PASSIONATELY about the skewed morality of the character traits and actions from the beginning? AN UNDERRATED TRIUMPH we haven't fully appreciated.

There's a reason THAT happened on Episode 1. Because it wants to assure you that it's NOT THE END OF IT. It's an invitation to broaden your horizons. The story effectively establishes this loud and clear: It is not just here to merely show you what you WANT to see. It will show you what you NEED to see. This is what's real and relevant in our generation and guess what? IT'S NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT ITSELF FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE.

I love that scene in Episode 4 so much because 99% of haters try so hard to pretend that scene didn't happen at all. Why? Because it singlehandedly shown:

√ Fantastic Character Growth
√ Astonishing maturity and ownership of mistakes
√ Very rational and dignified resolution

If you hate on TTTS because of its serious themes and you just want BL stories to be shallow and fluffy to fulfill your escapism fantasy fetishes, and if you want BL couples to be sweet all the time with zero conflicts, please I beg you, just go and watch Teletubbies.
Because honey, SELECTIVE adoration is a scary thing. Only wanting the cute, pastel-colored fluffy things is nothing but blind worship. IT'S AS IF YOU JUST WANT GAY PEOPLE TO ENTERTAIN YOU, and then you have the audacity to refuse to honor their struggles and their sufferings??

Let's admit it: BL Series creators (and all of us, too) love SUPERLATIVE characters— the most popular heartthrob, the smartest genius, the sexy playboy, the richest kid, the most talented guy in insert-club-here, the head hazer, the campus Moon, the voted cutest freshman, etc.
And it's totally fine! It's my guilty pleasure too. It's inexplicable, but it seems like the more popular the characters are, the juicier the plot becomes because their status elevates the scenarios a notch more interesting.

And then comes TTTS— full of everyday, normal people.

TTTS is refreshing because even though it introduced Type as a Soccer Varsity Player and Tharn as a Drummer, it chose to focus on their identities based on what they love and hate.

Type hates gays. Tharn loves men. As simple and straightforward as that.

As the story progresses, we see layers and dimensions of their personalities being revealed through their interactions. We understand them, root for them, get annoyed and angry with them, fall in love with them, cause somehow, they look, sound and act exactly just like all of us.
I love how Type's character represents GROWTH and how Tharn represents CONSISTENCY. This series shows us that life often makes us go through bad things. But Type is proof that we can CHOOSE to EVOLVE to something good. And Tharn is evidence that we can REMAIN good till the end.

Say what you will about its many weaknesses, but for what it's worth, TTTS is a bold, radical tale of how love will always, always triumph over hate. It is refreshing, fearless and necessary. There is a reason why a lot of us keep coming back to this show time and time again.

Cesar Cruz, a Mexican Poet Activist said this in 1997: Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. TharnType the series has managed to become that: to be shocking, controversial, uplifting and empowering, hilarious and heartbreaking and so, so fun ALL AT ONCE.

TharnType is so much more than a love story; It is, I believe, first and foremost, a story of hope.

It tells of how imperfect and fragile we are as humans but also of how we are capable of growth and change, understanding, and even more amazingly, of forgiveness. "

credit: raikantopinisms (twitter)

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A gay man disapproves this.

Certainly turned off with the trope when a gay man found a homophobic straight man, then the gay man kept teasing that straight man until they're having sex in the bathroom (this is almost by definition, the R word); then after a good deed, that homophobic man returns the favor with literally selling his body to be enjoyed by a gay man even before they officially a boyfriend (Yes, that "misekakunoi" thing, this is fucking bullshit).

This series is made for girls (specifically, BL watchers) of those advanced level who is silently seeking for rape stories in gay relationship, who wants to see or hear about steamy hypersexualized scenes. Gay men don't want to be seen as rapist and hunting straight men. If you want to watch series about gay men having raunchy sex, why don't just go to gay-oriented series or just straight to gay porn?

No matter you called it fiction or fantasy, it's still not the gay depiction that the gay people want to be attached with. Make no mistake: rape/sexual assault among gay people does exist, but without sensitiveness in mind, TharnType is just a series that further stigmatizes gay people rather than celebrating it. Mew and Gulf's acting is so-so. Visual and music: who cares...

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AŞIRI PROBLEMATİK

tek kelimeyle korkunç bir dizi. LGBTİ+fobi, psikolojik ve fiziksel şiddet,.. problematik ne ararsanız var ve bunlar bir de romantize edilip aklanıyor. başladığım bir şeyi bitir(e)memekten hiç hoşlanmam ama bir süre sonra bu diziyi bunca problematikliğine rağmen neden hala izlemeye devam ettiğimi sorgulayıp bırakmam gerektiğine karar verdim. daha fazla izlemeye dayanamadım resmen.
en çok üzüldüğüm şeyse birçok listede yer alması ve genelde seviliyor olması. aşkolar zorba, eleştiri kabul etmeyen, asla özür dilemeyen, kendini düzeltmek için gram çabası olmayan bir homofobik var, bir geyle ilişkide olması hiçbir şeyi değiştirmez. kendisi hala nefret suçu failidir, ayrımcıdır.

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toxicity dressed up as love

Overall the show is toxic, that is undeniable. But there are also a few good things and I really enjoyed parts of it, especially the first episodes.
So, first what I liked.
- acting. Mew is an amazing actor and he really carried this show on his back many times. He is so much more than just good looks and I love how he shows different emotions with just slight changes of facial expressions. His pain was really heartbreaking and those little happy smiles Tharn tried to hide so desperately when Type did something nice were just stunning. Gulf was solid, though obviously overshadowed by Mew's performance. Other boys were decent but didn't really have much onscreen time.
- side characters. Techno was super cute and funny, I enjoyed every moment he was on screen. The entire group of friends was interesting and I would love to see more of them. The two guys who lived next to Tharn and Type were sweet.
- music was good and the theme song is lovely.
- chemistry between Tharn and Type was off the charts and all intimate moments were really hot.

Now a much longer list of what I didn't like.
- an unbelievably careless approach to sexual abuse. Type's unresolved trauma which is suddenly miraculously cured by sex. Tar being raped and the show not addressing this issue in a meaningful way. Tharn having dubiously consensual sex with San when the former was 14 and was so "small, cute and innocent that San couldn't resist". Plus Thorn, a loving big brother, laughing with San that "you had sex with my younger brother and it was so bad that he doesn't want to be a bottom ever again, but sure bro, you are still my best friend".
- Tharn's rapey behaviour. As much as I can understand that he felt attacked when he did nothing wrong and decided that since Type hates gays, some gay behaviour would be the best way to retaliate, but still, as soon as he learned about Type's past, he should have stopped it immediately. No excuses.
- Type's toxicity. Jesus, that was awful. I really felt sorry for Type at the beginning, but when he was still being a total asshole when Tharn was nothing but sweet and loving towards him, that was too much. No, it is not cute or mischievous, it is WRONG on so many levels. I get that Type was traumatised and was supposed to be the "tease" here, but ffs this is not how you justify being a toxic jerk towards the person you supposedly love.
- Tharn's absolute lack of self-esteem. He is repeatedly verbally and physically abused by Type and still comes back begging for more. It was terribly sad that Tharn was all smiles and happiness only because Type wasn't hating him for a few seconds. This is NOT how you should be treated in a relationship.
- ending. Honestly, was there any logic in this at all? Couldn't those two just TALK for once instead of having sex and fighting? Couldn't Type think of something that would NOT break Tharn's heart for a change? And Lhong is essentially left to his own devices and even assured that he is loved after he paid some guys to GANG RAPE Tar?
- overall lost potential. I really hoped that as the show touched upon so many important and difficult issues, it will be a meaningful story about overcoming your traumas, learning how to be more open-minded, working on relations with other people, establishing a healthy relationship and contributing to it in a mature way. It could have been so good.

Leia Mais

It's superb

First of all this is my first BL drama. It has already set up my standard so high that I think I never not love any BL drama as much aa I love this drama. For me it's superb. I really like the plot (it's bit cheesy but I'm not complaining) and its cast and not mentioned it's ost. Tharntype can make anyone fall in love with Them and BL dramas. Not gonna give any spoiler about the drama. But it's really amazing. After watching it soo many times already, I became a fan of BL series. And I think no matter how many bl series I watch in future, nothing can replace Tharntype, it gonna remain at top and my most favourite bl drama forever. I really recommend everyone to watch this drama and fell in love with their cast (specially Mewgulf) and bl series.

Ps. It's just frictional plot no need to over react with something thats imaginary. Rest up to you all wheather you want to watch it or not. It's just my opinion.

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Romanticizing Abusive Relationships

Things that I liked about the series:
- So I FINALLY get to talk about this show! I think this was my most anticipated review ever since I posted that I'd be watching/reviewing TharnType. A lot of you were expecting me to see why MewGulf is such a popular ship. So what's my verdict?

...Okay yeah, I can see why they're beloved. I stan MewGulf, I admit it. CONGRATS BL FANS, YOU WON ME OVER!!!!

- Right away, I want to dive into Gulf's character "Type" first. First off, let me say I hate homphobia. I'm gay, and I'm proud, and anybody who has a problem with gays can kiss my ass. That being said, I have to commend this show for giving me a reason for Type's homophobia that is arguably understandable. Normally when we see homophobia being portrayed in shows and movies, it's usually the whole, "God hates gays" or "Being gay is a sin." *yawn* But with Type, that's not the case. His homophobia comes from a traumatic event as a child where he was raped by a male pedophile. I honestly do not blame him for staying away from gays after that, and I applaud the writers for giving us a valid reason that has nothing to do with religion.
I think what makes it worse for Type is that he knows he's attracted to Tharn despite how much he hates gays, which means he also hates himself for the feelings he has. I can't imagine what kind of turmoil that must cause for someone's mentality. Bravo, TharnType.
- Another thing about Gulf's character Type is that he has one of the better character developments in BL. He starts off as an angry homophobe, then slowly grows more into his relationship with Tharn. Then he wants to keep his new boyfriend a secret, but then he slowly starts telling those closest to him about his relationship with Tharn. He hates the mere sight of Tharn's ex-boyfriend Tar, but at the last episode, they seem to develop a mutual acquaintance, or friendship. He's grown so much over the course of 12 episodes, and I love seeing that in a character.
- Let's talk about Mew's character next. Mew plays Tharn, a character who I can best describe as, "A GENTLE GIANT." He's a power top on the outside, but has the heart of a submissive. He's so loving, affectionate, and caring; not just for Type, but for everyone around him. When it comes to Type, I think there is nothing this man wouldn't do to please him. He'd probably drink Type's piss if he asked him to. He's one of the more softer dominants we've seen in a BL, and I honestly love it. I love how his and Type's personalities are opposite of the roles they play in the relationship. It breaks the typical stereotype of who's considered top or bottom.
- Let's go to the actors. As usual, all actors were phenomenal. What do you expect in BL? This industry has some of the most talented actors around. That said, there are some that really stole the show for me. The actors who I felt shined the most were Mew, Kok who plays Tharn's ex-boyfriend "Tar," and Kaownah who plays "Lhong." These three actors stood out to me.
- Kok, who plays Tar, I felt had the biggest acting range of them all. He's had to play so many layers to his character in one season. Showing Tar's shy side, his vulnerable side, his obsessive side, and his broken side. That's a lot to pull off, and he did it so effortlessly. I do hope that we'll one say see Kok play a lead role in a BL someday. I would love to see him have a loving BL partner. I think Tar and Tum were so cute together, and I wouldn't have minded if they got a spinoff together where they played the leads (if they're not blood related of course.)
- Oh dear lord, I have so much to say about Kaownah's character "Lhong" but none of them are good. So let me start with the good. Kaownah did such an amazing job playing a mentally psychotic character that I hate so much. lol
- Oh, and there's a lot of hot sexy scenes, so....yeah. There's that.

Things I didn't like about the series:
- This is where I feel like I'm going to have so many BL fans hate my guts LMFAO. Let's talk about the storyline for a second. I'll be blunt...the storyline is not good. I mean, it has a lot of good ideas, but the execution was bad. It's very problematic in multiple ways.
- I said a lot of positives about Type's characters, but I do have a few problems with him too. While his behavior is arguably understandable TO AN EXTENT, he's still not a likable character. I think my biggest problem with Type is how violent he is, especially to Tharn. We've seen Type physically assault Tharn multiple times, even when they started dating. Punching him in the face, kicking him, kneeing him in the crotch, etc. TYPE IS ABUSIVE, there's no way to tip toe around it. He's literally abusive. I do sympathize with him, I do see some good in him, and I can see that he grows to love Tharn, but does the good outweigh the bad? That part I'm unsure of. I had this similar dilemma with Khai from "Theory of Love," and sadly, I still prefer Type over him. Reason being is because we actually HAVE A REASON to cut Type some slack, and we do see why Type could be called a good guy. With Khai, we don't really see it. Any good he does was for himself or to try to win over Third. That's not enough.
- Unfortunately, Type isn't the only lead I have a problem with. I have a few problems with Tharn as well.
Right away, I have to say this. THARN WAS SEXUALLY ASSAULTING TYPE. Don't you dare try to say he wasn't. Ep 1, he was kissing all over a drunk, unwilling Type, even after he said he doesn't do it with drunks. NONCONSENTUAL ACTS ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE. CAN WE PLEASE STOP ROMANTICIZING IT!?!
And can we please stop using the whole "It's only fiction," excuse to justify it! Nothing justifies it, fiction or reality.
And I can't help but wonder why that was put in, because it never really happens again the rest of the season, and it really doesn't mesh well with Tharn's character at all. It seemed out of place, and just used as an excuse to get some sexy times in right at the beginning, which is pathetic.
Other than the sexual assault, I also hate how much of a pushover Tharn is. He literally takes any abuse given to him and never really fights back. He accepts it because that's how much he loves Type, and I find it funny how the writers are trying to make it seem romantic, when it accurately portrays an abusive relationship with a beaten wife.
- Aaaaand we're back to Lhong. I've heard he's one of the most hated characters in BL, and now I know why. Lhong is a piece of shit and he needed his ass kicked, which never happened except that one punch Tharn delivered. Lhong's character is probably the most poorly written character in the entire series, and I really hate how the writers were trying to make us feel sympathy for him. Oh he feels alone, that's why he hired three guys to rape a 10th grader, and almost kill Type, all to have someone who will never love him all to himself. FUCK YOU, LHONG! I'm so sorry, but I will never feel sorry for this asshole, and the fact the writers were trying to make us feel sorry for him is disgusting. He should've gotten his ass beaten bloodied. He should've gotten arrested. Did any of that happens? NO!! He gets away with it all, which leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Even when the writers are supposedly trying to show us why he's like that, it was also poorly executed. We're just TOLD how lonely he feels, but we never actually see it. We never see how lonely and broken it feels, and that's it. For any future writers out there, SHOW, DON'T TELL!!! That's one of the main rules in storytelling.
- I have to admit, the ending was very unsatisfying. There was so many plot holes that were left untouched that we may never get answers for, unless they're in season 2.
- Did Type and Kohm ever make up?
- Did Tum and Tharn make up?
- Did their former roommates ever get together?
- Why didn't Tar and Tharn talk in person about what happened?
- Why didn't Tharn tell his bandmates the truth about why Lhong was no longer in the band?
Why do we not have any answers to any of these?
- I'm also confused by Tar and Tum's relationship. Are they related by blood? Because Tum clearly likes Tar more than a brother, but they never specified their relationship. So many things left open.

Overall Thoughts:
This is probably the most frustrating review I've ever made so far, because I still don't know if I actually liked it overall or not. This show is very problematic, and I'm not even sure I've covered everything lol. I do love MewGulf as a pair. I think they have outstanding chemistry, and despite my issues with their characters, I did find myself smiling at them a lot. I loved the idea of their enemies-to-lovers relationship, though I wish it was better written. I think my biggest issue with the show is the ending with Lhong's character, and all the plot holes left unfinished. That's how I can best describe the ending. Unfinished.
But my overall problem with TharnType has nothing to do with the actors, or the chemistry. It all comes down to the writing, which is not good. Sorry, but that's my honest opinion. The writing is the weakest part of TharnType. I feel like this show gets most of its hype because of how hot MewGulf are, and because of all the sex scenes. That's it. And while the sexy scenes were hot, and so are our leads, that alone does not make up for the bad writing. It's not completely garbage, but it could've been so much better.
I will admit, I enjoyed watching this show far more than I was expecting to, but in my heart, I can't say it's one of the best BL shows I've seen. I wasn't bored though, so that's a plus, but I'm not even sure if I'd watch it again. So many good ideas, so much talent all around, but a lot of wasted potential.

Rank: 7/10

Leia Mais

It wasn't bad but...

This review probably won't be that long how I am used to write, I don't have many things I want to say (which is weird).

I think it's totally undestandable why I chose this show, I wanted to see BL which will have to be good. I watched 2gether and I didn't like it, so I thought thai dramas probably weren't my style. But two days ago, I was sick and I said something like "ok, let's try some BL, I am tired of myself, I want something where I don't have to think".

TharnType seriously isn't bad show, I liked it more than 2gether, on top of I watched the whole drama which is incredible. It's supposing sweet and nice story about the relationship between openly gay and the boy who hates gays at all. It's not bad but also it wasn't the best, still I am person who wants romance which will be logical and also where the romance won't be too much. This is mainly romance show so still it don't suits my taste. But, yeah, I liked it. Probably.

Chemistry between them was sooo good and probably that's why I like it. I fell in love with Tharn, he is so cute and I like his character. On the opposite side, Type... no, please no, his character was frustrating to me. Can we sometimes have relationship without arguings? Because it's possible in the real life, it is, I want to see it also in drama because I am sure I would love this drama so much!

Some scenes were weird and I didn't understand opinions and decisions of characters (mainly Type, I just don't like his character). But I liked it. This thai bl drama wasn't that bad. So thanks for nice experience.

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When you're in "who's more toxic" contest and your opponent is TharnType

This is actually a psychological drama about two mentally ill people falling in love with each other. People were telling us how KinnPorsche was toxic, but it was NOTHING in comparison with TharnType. You have trauma, sexual harassment & assault, r*pe, manipulation, (probably) p3dophilia, incest... Damn, the last time I felt this uncomfortable was while reading Killing Stalking. It's a show full of red flags, or psychos.. or both. Plus, A LOT of characters should've ended up in prison.

Yeah, I gasped multiple times, but in the end it was annoying, and I hated it. So many BL shows needed season two, but TharnType got it??? No way, I'm not watching it. I'm angry.

Story: Toxic, weird, I felt uncomfortable.
Acting/Cast: Fine, I guess.
Music: Ryuichi Sakamoto is shaking, crying rn.
Rewatch Value: An absolute zero. I'm never watching this again.

BTW, I'm surprised that Ryuichi Sakamoto didn't sue them for stealing the Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence theme song lol.

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WTH!?

I watched this years ago but I'll write a review now. Honestly after watching this I did not watch any films and dramas for atleast 2 years, that is how traumatised I was. I am writing a review now because I saw people comment how awesome this drama is/was. Anyone who thinks this one is good needs to see a doctor immediately.
Type is a victim of SA and what do we get? A male lead who forces himself on drunk Type and has xxx with him. "But he liked it", these type of comments make me question humanity. What I hate about thai especially thai bl dramas are these type of plots were SA is swiped under the rug. Don't touch it if you are not going to give these type of storylines justice. Only one scene, Type's trauma is shown only in one scene and then it is forgotten and what Tharn did was okay because he is the male lead. BS! I hate Tharn with a I have, his friend is no different than him. He druged his ex boyfriend and hired men to gang rxxx him. What did Tharn do? Wail in pity how he has been cheated on. The poor boy had to go thru such a traumatic experience only for his boyfriend to call him a hoe. Not even a sorry, not one single word from Tharn to his ex boyfriend who suffered and developed a mental illness even after learning what had truly happened. He only took action after his friend tried to do the same to Type what a hero right? What about his friend? Nothing, nothing happens to him. They just brush it with a "he loved Tharn, that is why he did what he did." Oh he got punched by Tharn for trying to touch his man.

I'll give it a 2 and only for the music nothing else. Such dramas should be banned. Honestly my brain froze most of the plot since it was triggering. I dont recall much but anyone who thinks this one is a good one needs help asap. Anyone who says this is just a drama does not understand the severity of the ever-changing mindset of humans.

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