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Updated Review 2021:Wow. What a difference a few years (or more) of drama viewing make. I originally watched this drama back when I was still a little baby drama newbie, and it definitely shows in my first review (which I've kept at the bottom of this updated review for you to compare the two with each other). I did not understand this drama or what it was trying to do. At all, lol. After a re-watch (only the second drama I've ever attempted to re-watch and the only drama I've Succeeded in fully re-watching), my feelings have fundamentally altered.
This drama is literally genius. Uproariously funny, office politics intrigue that's actually...intriguing, Yoo Bang and Yeo Chi are Damn. Good. Characters., side characters who feel like family, consistent plot, a side character who Really surprises you with their character progression, extremely well-used aspects of the drama's real-life source material, chock-full of traditional Korean sayings. This is basically a Kdrama classic and required viewing for all Kdrama lovers.
And now that I've given it such glowing praise, let me talk about my complaints, lol.
While I love Yoo Bang and Yeo Chi to pieces, Hang Woo and Woo Hee are definitely the most inconsistent characters out of our main four, and my major complaints about the drama are all related to them.
1) Hang Woo has a deep-seeded desire for revenge that plays an important part in the main plotline of the drama but at some point, said revenge disappears and isn’t mentioned or alluded to or plays any part in the story again until about 3 eps out from the end. It fades from the story in a way that feels natural and realistic, but the writers never give an explanation as to Why Hang Woo doesn’t seem to care about exacting his revenge anymore. He just effectively stops trying to get revenge.
2) Once Hang Woo and Woo Hee start down the path of truly falling for each other (not just flirting/driving each other nuts at every turn/Hang Woo being manipulative), there's very little focus on them actually getting to know each other as people. I found myself wanting to actually See them falling in love with each other, not just be told that that's what happened, and I was disappointed that their entire relationship added up to 'they (adorably) (hilariously) drove each other nuts for ages and now they're in love.'
3) The last three to four eps are not as tightly plotted as the rest of the drama and can be a bit draggy in places. This is mostly to do with Hang Woo's character (and tangentially Woo Hee) because of the aforementioned problem with his plans of revenge disappearing with no explanation then suddenly popping back up to become an important part of the plot again.
I'm not going to say this is one of my favorite dramas, but man do I respect it a lot more than I used to. Contrary to what ignorant, naive, little baby drama newbie me thought, this is a very good drama.
I do not recommend Korean drama newbie's watch this drama as their first, second, third, fourth, or even fifth drama though as there's a lot going on here that you probably won't be able to fully appreciate until you've got a few other dramas under your belt, but you should definitely watch it once you know enough about Korean dramas to really appreciate all of the magnificent things Salaryman did with it's story.
Original Review:
Great at humor. Terrible at drama.
And Hang Woo. Make up your damn mind, son!!!
I've contemplated going back and watching that last episode so many times.
Maybe I will someday.
Then again, maybe I'll just get some ice cream instead.
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Sure they look like the actors you love but they are still honing their skills that have made them so beloved today. Either that or they were given such a weak script that they did the best they could. During the time the show came out they might not have been in a position to pick and choose the roles they liked. They also had bills to pay back in the day.
The plot when looked at by western standards is a bit gross with a teacher and student falling in love and I guess the show wanted to promote that love knows no age but I can't get my head around the relationship. It is not the age that gets to me, but the student/teacher relationship. For me a teacher is a sacred profession and is entrusted with nurturing a child's future much like a parent. Think about it, you are as much a product of your upbringing at home as you are of the education you received at school. A teacher replaces your parents during your time in school and to marry your teacher is just YUCK!
The one thing that the show has taught me is that no matter how much I may be in love with Gong Yoo I can still watch him objectively wen he is on screen With the exception of Cho Han Gul in Coffee Prince because when ever he is on screen during that show I forget to read the subtitles ;)
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What it's like to be a twenty year old professional in the Taiwanese work force.
And the romance between the lead characters. And the friendship between all four girls. And pairing them all off for the perfect, tied with a bow, happy ending!
Kind of important things.
This is definitely one of the most disappointing viewing experiences I've ever had, and I eventually had to drop this drama, because it clearly was never going to get back on plot.
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I don't remember how far into this drama I got before dropping it, but it wasn't more than five or six episodes, and it was all the female leads fault.What I loved about the first season, what made it my favorite reiteration I've seen so far, was that every time the female lead found herself in an awkward, embarrassing situation due to her own folly and stupid decisions, she owned up to it and made the best of it. She didn't complain or feel sorry for herself. She just got on with it.
That is very much Not what happened this season.
Season 2 Kotoko was downright SHRILL. She whined, she complained, she threw tantrums at the slightest provocation. You honestly felt sorry for Naoki for having to put up with that. I mean, was it annoying as hell that he didn't just Talk to Kotoko about why he didn't want to register their marriage yet? Yes. I wanted to strangle him for it. But outside of that, there's not much he does this season (at least what I watched) that was all that terrible. He's pretty benign.
And where were all of the side characters we'd come to know and love from season 1??? Not there, that's where. In the Taiwanese version of this season, there were all of these really wonderful side stories full of awesome character development that served as a nice break from the drama of the main couple. This reiteration ignored them all. Kotoko's friends basically disappear, and Kinnosuke's love line is stripped down to barely nothing, leaving it frustratingly unenjoyable to watch.
In my opinion, this season is terrible, I don't recommend it, and I wish I could unwatch it.
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This drama was a straight up disappointment. It shouldn’t have been since the very beginning of the first episode and the very end of the last episode pretty much sum up Exactly What The Story Should Have Been About!The leads had middling chemistry at best (although if the story had been better, their chemistry might have been better too), the story was just baaaaaad, and the side story was so infuriating it made you want to punch a puppy.
(No puppies were harmed in my viewing of this drama.)
The only truly good part was the big ol' Smacker our male leads lays on our female lead. That kiss was impressive. (If a little forceful.)
Save yourself the frustration and drive right on past this drama. The only rock you'll find here is the massive one lodged in your shoe.
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This special/episode/whatever is freakin' cute. Sit your butt down and watch it.
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This is a noona romance, pure and simple. There’s some exposition on what it’s like to be a reporter for a magazine, what it’s like to be an odd job man, what it’s like not to earn a steady living, and what it’s like to Earn a steady living, but all of that really comes in second to the noona romance. And the noona romance…is gooooood. The writers really got what real romance is about. Mutual respect, compatibility, excitement, passion, Actually Spending Time Together. Freakin’ real-deal romance. (And Zero asshole behavior, for which I am always grateful.)Unfortunately, the drama did the romance So well, that it was all the more disappointing when same said romance faltered in the final quarter.
I'm talking about the Love Octopus (my name for love triangles).
I know they're common in older dramas, and it’s honestly very short-lived here (about two or three episodes), and yet I hated everything about it.
Almost from the moment he appeared on screen, I was ready for Shi Hoon to leave. From being angry at Ji Yeon for believing his secretary’s lie (don't even get me started on the stupidity of that whole plotline) to expecting everything to go back to exactly the way it had been six years earlier (because obviously, nothing could have changed within those six years; neither of them were different people or anything) to ‘pretending’ to be a ‘noble idiot’ and ‘pushing’ Ji Yeon away. (I didn’t even realize he was being a Noble Idiot until Ji Yeon pointed it out. That’s how good he was at just being an ass.) He literally got more and more annoying as the show went on, and by the end, I just wanted him dead.
As for Ji Yeon, she proved to be frustrating in a different, but all too familiar way to seasoned drama watchers. Leading up to the Love Octopus, she was a fabulous female lead. She’s feisty, she’s driven, she’s smart, she’s no-nonsense, SHE'S BLOODY CONSISTENT! Then Mr. Ex showed up, and Ji Yeon went from feisty and driven to timid and indecisive. She lost all sense of personality, spunk, spark, passion, fire, confidence, independence, and I HATED IT.
I’m not saying I don’t understand why it happened. She had been in a relationship with Shi Hoon for a long time, she’d clearly been pretending to be someone she wasn’t when she was with him, and the end of their relationship had devastated her. But we didn’t get nearly enough exposition into their past relationship for her sudden change in demeanor to feel realistic. I just didn’t believe that a woman so self-possessed would fall apart that easily at the sight of her ex.
But here’s where I sing Dong Ha’s praises as he was the only part of the Love Octopus that wasn't terrible. I love him. I love every single thing about him. He’s perfect. He’s wonderful. He’s kind. He’s caring. He’s giving. He’s hard working. He’s all the good things.
He literally saved this drama.
I will admit here that I might be too harsh in my assessment of this part of the story, but I honestly hated watching our female lead go from feisty and self-assured to a complete doormat within the span of seconds. And what made it so much worse is that all of the sexy, romantic, cuteness between our leads all but disappeared once the story hit the 'My ex fiancé is back, and for some unexplainable reason, I feel obligated to go back to him' arc. We were left with this open-ended, will they-won't they ending between our leads, and neither of them deserved that.
I don’t regret sticking this drama out, but I don’t Not regret it either. I mostly just wish we had gotten a less open ended ending. (Would have gone a long way in making up for the ex fiancé subplot.) I still totally recommend this drama to anyone who likes noona romances. Or just anyone who likes romances where there’s actually a compelling reason for the main couple to Be the main couple. Or just anyone who likes nice guys. Because as much as I hate Shi Hoon and feel like the drama really dragged it’s way to the finish after he showed up, I also think this drama was really, really, really well written and really, really, really, Really well acted and has a Fabulous romance between two people who are Actually compatible. If you can put up with two to three episodes of ex-significant-other drama (which is probably perfectly bearable as long as you’re not me) and a pretty open ended ending, this noona romance is killer.
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This is a drama about your ultimate romantic fantasy coming true. Dating your favorite celebrity. We all know it’s not possible, but it doesn’t stop us from daydreaming about it. For a drama with such an unrealistic premise, however, it’s very realistically portrayed. I never thought to myself ‘This isn’t possible. This would never happen in real life.’ I personally love dramas with unrealistic plotlines that allow you to really play out your entirely impossible daydreams, but I also love stories that take unrealistic situations and make them real. This drama definitely does that. The relationship between Kim Hye Rim and Lee Ki Kwang is very grounded in reality, developing naturally and organically. The struggles they face as a couple are, while not relatable to me, very logical. Of course they’re going to have to sneak around and hide their relationship. Of course they’re going to struggle just to find five minutes for a kakaotalk chat.The portrayal of 20-year-olds is spot on. Kim Hye Rim is very relatable. Her experiences with the opposite sex, the way she reacted to different life situations, it was all things I shared common ground on with her. I also just really liked her. She’s very likeable. Lee Ki Kwang was ridiculously adorable in everything he did. He was like a fawning little puppy whenever he was around Hye Rim. If I were a 20-year-old girl, I would be allllll over that. And Ga Young was hilarious as Hye Rim’s best friend. I would have loved to have had a friend like her when I was 20. Her obsession with Lee Ki Kwang was just so…wonderful.
Despite the drama’s title, however, there’s not actually much exploration into what it’s like to be in your 20’s (apart from what it’s like to date in your 20’s). The story's focus is mostly on what it would be like to date a celebrity, but considering the drama’s short format, I think that works in its favor. There wouldn’t have been enough time to squeeze anymore into the story then was already there.
There’s no real love triangle here, what I call a Love Octopus. Our lead has a crush on someone else at the beginning of the drama, but she quickly moves on from him once he shows his true colors. Most of the romantic tension comes from the main couple having to keep their relationship a secret from everyone. There are no evil romantic rivals for our leads to contend with. Instead, we have a vicious Kpop fanbase and a roommate who may have taken her celebrity crush a little too far. When the relationship is finally revealed, there is fallout, and the couple definitely suffers from it, but it’s all worked out to everyone’s satisfaction by the end.
And the roommate finds another hottie to crush on.
Everything about this drama is pretty wonderful. The camerawork is beautiful, very aesthetically pleasing. The storyline is very well thought out and grounded in reality. The acting is flawless. And the eye candy is very eye candy worthy. At 4 episodes of 20-25 minutes each, there’s really no excuse not to watch this drama.
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I hate this drama.
(Music is classical so I have to score high out of respect. I wouldn't rewatch this if I were stranded on a desert island with only the DVD's to keep me company.)
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(Music is 1 because I don't remember what the music was like. Rewatch is 1 because I wouldn't do that to myself.)
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For a while there, I thought this would end up being one of my favorite dramas. The acting was phenomenal. The characters were phenomenal. The story was phenomenal. It was all so phenomenal. It was also one of those rare dramas from my newbie drama days where the stories outside of the romance actually interested me. Normally, I didn't care about so and so's conglomerate or singing career or whatever other boring and cliché overarching story the writers came up with, because I was there for the romance, damn it. But not this drama. I loved the whole idea of there being this woman who could see ghosts, but she doesn't know how to make them go away, and then meeting a random man who had some unexplained ability to get rid of them. It was compelling and tightly plotted, full of the kind of twisted logic only a drama can deliver.I even got some enjoyment out of Joong Won's kidnapping and betrayal story. The idea of him being kidnapped and simultaneously betrayed by his teenaged girlfriend/teenaged girlfriends evil twin was overdramatic and unrealistic and filled with plotholes, but it had such a great initial setup that I couldn't help but be drawn in. I was excited to see what was going to happen. I totally called the whole thing falling apart long beforehand, so I wasn't surprised when it veered off into left field towards the middle of the drama, but it was still disappointing to see. The whole plotline was total makjang, confusing and silly and hard to follow. Hee Joo, Han Na, Anna, Falanna, Fee Fi Fo, Banana, let's forget about the fact that a teenage girl could not plan out a kidnapping like that (or really any kidnapping) by herself, we were also given very little explanation for Why she did it. At least not a strong one. So your nice twin stole your man without him realizing that was what was happening (although I don't know just how 'nice' that makes her.) Why you gotta kidnap Him for it? It wasn't His fault. The more logical option would have been to just kill your twin and take over her life so you could date Joong Won. Still messed up, but at least the logic follows.
It's in the four main characters and the romance where this drama really shines though.
I liked pretty much all of the leads (minus one) equally. Gong Shil is adorable, hilarious, full of emotional depth, and dogged in her pursuit of relief from ghosts. Her plight was both comical and heartrendingly sad. When she batted away a ghost or reeled back from one in fear, I laughed and felt for her at the same time. Joong Won is obsessive compulsive, highly intelligent, full of emotional depth, and dogged in his pursuit of relief from Gong Shil. His journey of self discovery and growth is superbly done and kept me very invested in his character. He's the same man at the end of the story, same quirks and mannerisms, and yet...he's a completely different person in so many ways.
Kang Woo was too precious for words. Loyal, sweet, adorable, intelligent, in possession of one of the most beautiful faces ever gifted to man, basically the perfect secondary male lead. He doesn't experience any kind of growth, but he doesn't really need to. He's Kang Woo. And once again, let's acknowledge the obvious. Man is DOUBLE FINE. (It's like a double rainbow but better.) Yi Ryung was the only one of the main four that didn't wow me. Spoiled and snobbish and hilarious in the most unintentional ways (intentional on the part of the writers, unintentional on the part of the character), I liked her. But I never loved her. She never experienced the amount of emotional growth and maturity I wanted her to.
Han Na and Hee Joo's teenage versions were interesting (despite the utter insanity of of the kidnapping and betrayal plot). Unfortunately, adult Hee Joo does not get a pass from me. I'm sure it was explained at some point and I just missed it, but I never understood why she showed back up. What did she want? What was her goal? She'd killed her sister, ruined Joong Won's life, and stole an expensive necklace for fun. (Or did she? I've actually forgotten now.) Did she just want to gloat about it?
In what is a rare turn me for me, I found myself experiencing some heavy second lead feels with this drama. This was particularly distressing to me, as I loved the male lead equally as much. Joong Won and Kang Woo were both perfectly acceptable romance options for Gong Shil, having equally compelling chemistry and relationships with her that were very carefully developed and thought through.
Some people would consider Joong Won a jerk and not worth Gong Shil's time, but I wouldn't classify him that way. If I were in a similar situation as him and someone I'd never met started following me around trying to touch me all the time because the 'ghosts' wouldn't leave them alone...I'd call the police. You really can't call Joong Won a jerk for trying to make a weird, kind of creepy woman leave him alone. Yes, his way(s) of avoiding his feelings for Gong Shil later on in the drama were unfair and not particularly kind, but they weren't intentionally malicious either.
Of course, Kang Woo filled the role of perfect second male lead to perfection, and that's the whole reason I had so much trouble squashing my second lead feels. If he'd had the ability to make the ghosts disappear rather than Joong Won and Gong Shil had shown romantic interest in him, I would have rooted for him instead. But Gong Shil and Joong Won liked each other, and he was the only one who could make the ghosts go away, and I really wanted Gong Shil to not have to see them anymore, so Joong Won...won...in the end. (That is a name ripe for puns.)
Intense second lead feels aside, I would say this romance is very well done. Gong Shil's constant need to be in contact with Joong Won contrasted with his desperate desire to get rid of her provided us with a hilarious give and take situation that I thoroughly enjoyed. And then when the tables were turned and it was him who needed the constant contact, it just made my heart go awwwww. The whole 'I love you, so you have to make sure I don't love you' thing was a surprisingly brilliant and effective plot device, even if incredibly silly character wise. Watching him try to deny his feelings was like watching those kids who take part in those experiments where they have to not eat something for a certain period of time in order to get something better. Only in this case, there was no reason for him to wait for something better, because Gong Shil was already perfect for him.
But the 'I love you. Don't let me love you' plot device eventually turned into a double edged sword, and it soon became obvious to everyone that all Gong Shil and Joong Won really wanted was to be together, and no matter how many reasons they came up with as to why they Couldn't be together, there was just no longer a legitimate reason for them Not to be together. Then it became a waiting game; a long, drawn out, waiting game where the only way to pass the time was to place bets on who would give in first.
And what better time for a third quarter shake up then right when our leads are on the cusp of admitting their undying love for each other. (That is a joke. It was not a good time. It was a bad time. It was terrible. I want my money back.) No, I'm not talking about Joong Won dying and then coming back with no memory of Gong Shil. Surprisingly, after sitting down and working out my feelings about it, I realized that that actually happened at the perfect point in the story.
I'm talking about Mr. 'I can see ghosts too.'
I understand why he was there. The drama was extended unexpectedly, and they needed to fill the extra time. But the characters presence is ultimately unnecessary. He adds nothing to the plot, he doesn't help Gong Shil find any answers, and he has it in his head that he has some kind of romantic claim on her because he met her ghost once. Nah, son. That ain't how that works.
In the end, our leads do still get a happy ending, but they also have to suffer through some rather unnecessary heartache before getting there. And they deliver to the audience what is a super weak-sauce kiss. Maybe the writers thought all the casual touching would be enough to satisfy the audience, but they thought wrong. Lame kiss was lame.
Despite it's faults, this drama does have a lot to commend itself, and I would recommend watching it.
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Yoon Jeong Sook is feisty, brave, opinionated, and doesn’t let Kwon Hyuk Joon boss her around. I loved everything about her, even if she mellowed a bit towards the end. Hyuk Joon is a genuinely stand up guy. He definitely has a, ‘I’m a man. You’re a woman. We should fulfill those roles' attitude, but there’s a sense of decency about him that makes you like him. I hated most of the members of Kwon Hyuk Joon’s family (except for precious grandpa, even if he went on about Ji Hye fulfilling her duties as a wife a little too much) as there was always a lot of talk about being a ‘good wife’ and having lots of babies, etc., and Yoon Jeong Sook definitely gets put through the ringer a couple times, but there whining and complaining and trying to manipulate from behind the scenes has no impact on our main characters and their lives, so it's easy to tune out.
What makes this drama so easy to watch, at least for me, is that from the get go, I wanted our leads together. They just made sense as a couple. There’s some really great chemistry between them, enough chemistry in fact, that our leads eventually got married to each other in real life. Granted, they got divorced later on in real life too, but I don’t think that has any bearing on the future of our dramas characters.
Right?
Overall, it was an adorable drama. It wasn't perfect, but it kept me coming back. So if you're looking for something fun that you can watch without too much stress or aggravation, I would definitely recommend this one. I don’t consider this one of my favorites, but I definitely think it was worth the watch.
Super short review coming through!
Fluffy and cute, and I wouldn't rewatch it even if I rewatched dramas, because his family drove me insane.
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First, I don’t like Ma Te. He started out as your typical 'good-looking' guy who thinks he's the bees knees, God's gift to humanity, the greatest thing since sliced bread, and to be fair, he's clearly never had anyone tell him otherwise so why shouldn't he believe that about himself? But really, he was pretty boring...and annoying...and kind of dumb. (And not the slightest bit attractive but what do I know. [They would give him a nice hairstyle, and I'd start to come around, then they'd screw it all up by turning his hair into a mop. Seriously, who was coming up with those hairstyles?!])
But he wasn't an awful character. In many ways, he was a good character. He was arrogant in a way that was sort of comical. Every time something didn't work out how he wanted, I was pumping my fists in excitement. His character was at his best when he was failing.
But failure came very rarely for Ma Te. Things were way too easy for him. Every woman he encountered fell for him. Every time he faced some kind of challenge at the company, it miraculously worked out in his favor. Granted, it was often because someone else with actual power and influence fixed things, but even then, Ma Te got all the credit.
He did get a 'final hour' emotional growth spurt, but it was completely unearned and I disliked him too much by then to care.
As for the entire conceit of the drama, the women (minus Bo Tong), each felt alternatively dynamic and boring. Sometimes the lesson Ma Te was meant to learn from them was clear, and other times I was scratching my head wondering why this random woman had wandered onto my screen where she clearly did not belong.
Then there's David. David broke my heart with all his heartbreaking wonderfulness. Which made it Oh So Frustrating when he turned into That character. You know the one. You’ll find them in every Asian drama known to man. They’ve been rejected. They’ve been turned down. They’ve been ignored. The lead has made their stance known, and it’s time for them to raise the white flag. But they refuse to let go.
I don’t know if the writer’s were just so in love with David that the only way for them to justify not giving him the girl was to make him look like a baby so they didn't have to feel bad about their choice or if they were just suffering from such an acute case of second lead feels that they got temporarily lost in those feelings, but they spent so much time on Bo Tong and David and David's inability to just move on that they did next to nothing to move Bo Tong and Ma Te's relationship along. And you might say at this point in the review 'That's hypocritical. You like Bo Tong, and she's every bit as much That character as David, so what gives?' What gives is I like stories where the jerky, self-important character gets a dose of their own medicine and finds themselves falling for someone they think is beneath them and through falling for them learns to be a not terrible person anymore, and you can't make me feel bad about that, so there.
Ultimately, the only thing that made the anguish that was watching this drama the slightest bit worth it, was Bo Tong. I frickin’ love Bo Tong.
Frickin’.
Love.
She was the only consistent character in the entire drama, she had GREAT fashion sense (FIGHT ME ON THAT), she was delightfully quirky and optimistic without being ridiculous, she was over the top, and I loved it.
Also, IU is such a good crier. My gosh.
To sum up, I think it's clear the writers bit off more then they could chew with this story. 10 women was too many. 6 would have been more doable. The lessons Ma Te was supposed to learn from each of them weren't always clear or even interesting. The family drama was ridiculous and confusing and added very little to the overall story. The illegitimate children plot was confusing, and the secret code concept was completely wasted. The business machinations made me roll my eyes. And there was no romance until the final hour. Tell us the truth writers. Did you actually have any sort of plan for this drama? Did you really want Bo Tong and Ma Te to end up together? Does any of it even matter? For my part, the answer is no.
(Rewatch is 1 because I can't choose zero.)
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