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Uma abordagem diferente no mundo Office
Com dez capítulos exibidos, Bad Guy My Boss veio começar a ter uma pegada mais assertiva já em seu oitavo para nono episódio. Não estou falando que a série é ruim, ao contrário, ela se apresenta como uma intermediária. O desenvolvimento dela, o que estava preso até este capítulo, é que Elis, no início da série, é um cara super dependente do seu subordinado que mais tarde se torna seu namorado, mas isso gera uma outra questão que a série tenta abordar ou foi apenas para "preencher lacunas" do roteiro, que são as questões emocionais existentes em Elis. Pat, por sua vez, se sente sempre coagido por Elis. Mas, como mencionei, neste 10° episódio tivemos uma assertividade juntando toda a história. Levando em consideração que serão 12 episódios, podemos então concluir que tem tudo para ter um final tranquilo.
ENG: With ten episodes aired, Bad Guy My Boss has started to take a more assertive approach from its eighth to ninth episode. I'm not saying that the series is bad; on the contrary, it presents itself as an intermediate work. The development that was stuck until this chapter is that Elis, at the beginning of the series, is a guy who is highly dependent on his subordinate, who later becomes his boyfriend. However, this raises another question that the series tries to address, or it could just be to 'fill in the gaps' in the script, which are the emotional issues present in Elis. Pat, on the other hand, always feels coerced by Elis. But, as I mentioned, in this 10th episode, we had an assertiveness that ties the whole story together. Considering that there will be 12 episodes, we can conclude that it is set up for a smooth ending.
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Abusive Jerk Guy His Boss (watch suggestions)
Overall: I was hoping this would be the bodice ripper BL version of What's Wrong With Secretary Kim, but the abuse, idiotic decisions, repetitive plot and love rivals ruined the series for me. 12 episodes about 45 minutes each. Aired on GagaOOLala https://www.gagaoolala.com/en/videos/4736/bad-guy-my-boss-2024-e01 Might eventually re-air on YouTube https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJx-XkJhYuVf6ejPVOOW2e3hwO8XfFMPO&si=QS9_ZMVBzioZJHRHContent Warnings: murder, attempted murder, blood, violence, intimate partner abuse, non con kissing, manipulation, manhandling, stalking, drugging, kidnapping
Watch Suggestions (takes out love triangle/business stuff/violence and instead focus on cute/steamy scenes)
- watch episode 1
- episode 2 watch 27:40-29:40
- episode 3 watch ep 2 recap up to 3 min, 15:20-17:30 (which is a flashback) and 31 to the end
- episode 4 watch 4:30-8
- episode 5 watch 28-38:30
- episode 6 watch 12-13, 16-16:50 and 20-22
- episode 7 watch 36:30-38
- episode 8 watch 5:25-5:55 and 9:30-10:30
- episode 9 watch 6:30-7:15, 31-34:30, 39-41:06
- episode 10 watch 14:30-15:15, 19:30-23:15, 25:30-28:30 and 38:30-42:30
- skip episode 11
- episode 12 watch 2-5:40, 7:30-9:15, 24-26:10 and 37 to the end
What I Liked
- what I thought was the premise based on ep 1
- established 1 protagonist as queer and sexually active
- caring/sweet moments
- visuals
- the ex girlfriend accepted the rejection once it was made clear
- Kim made something clear to Pat towards the end, with a breadcrumb that he might find a different romantic relationship
Room For Improvement
- two of the characters were abusive yet we were supposed to root for their romantic relationships with non-abusive partners, examples of abuse included: physically violent (manhandling, choking, shove), manipulative, ignored boundaries, controlling, enacted retribution for perceived slights, one character shot a guy in the head and the next day the viewer is supposed to root for his romantic relationship...
- too many love rivals/love triangles
- there were many flashbacks/flash forwards and I was not sure a couple times where we were in the timeline including the intro (or was that a dream and not a flash forward...), this was worse in the beginning and not an issue later on
- the daydreams and what actually happened needed more differentiation
- a character had a terrible "plan", he acted like a total jerk (which granted is in the title) but had zero character growth
- bad production value things like music not fitting the mood, odd angles, odd 360 rotating shot in episode 2 when a character was talking to his friend
- cartoony villain who was sitting on a black couch in an empty warehouse sipping wine
- nonsense stuff: zero logical reason for why a character didn't communicate his feelings at the end of episode 9, why kidnap/kill the boyfriend when he could have kidnapped/killed the actual guy
- a CEO ordered around doctors and police officers, police not included when they should have been
- too much business drama in the final episode
- in episode 12 the kiss went on for way too long and Elyes was an idiot for not realizing why Pat was upset
- waited until the very last second for Elyes to say "I love you" to Pat
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I am glad it ended.
What can you say about a show which does start with sexual harrasment and mentally abuse?It's a trope nobody needs, a trope nobody asks for and a trope which was lame 10 years ago.
Besides the cinematography and the title song this shows has nothing really likable. The characters are plain, the story is aweful and everything is so full of clichés. If you want to know more other reviewers will detail all the points which are bad, but I have no time to waste on this show anymore.
It's one of the dissapointments of 2024. Nice production quality meets aweful script, boring acting, some fan-service and nothing more. You should avoid it, if you haven't watched it yet.
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What can I say...?
I guess the whole adventure with this series can be summarized as follows:1. The series is garbage.
2. The characters are assholes.
3. The script is mehh.
4. 8/10 - yes, I don't know why either... collective hypnosis of the audience, because apart from the fact that the actors are handsome, nothing makes sense.
The phenomenon of why we watch it should be studied.
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Everybody is a BIG fool!!! and I love it
Don't judge me for my bad tasteEverytime I watch this show I'm always screaming "you're a fool" at someone over being foolish, stupid and dumb (usually the three at the same time). The fact that a lot of people decided to take this show so personally and be so offended at its existence and were upset that people actually liked it is what sends me.
Personal thoughts
The show is literally called "bad guy my boss" so it is to be assumed we already should've expected what we're getting into and people were still coming back every week to complain? What exactly was you expecting? Academy award winning performances? a dramatic plot? Hollywood studio producers? a blockbuster? or euphoria typa aesthetics? Let's be serious please. This show is exactly what it said it is, often times trashy, wattpad level of cringe and a dumpster of pure mess.
Story
Now. I won't ignore that the show was written. It definitely was, but that's its defining charm because the writers and producers seemed not to take themselves too seriously, to create a story that was lighthearted, and very sweet from a very popular genre as old as time ....."sexy boss man wants to fuc ....err penetrate naive secretary" but oh wait naive secretary is in fact in love with sexy boss man and is an undercover freak in bed. YES, YES, YES this is one of those secret guilty pleasures I should enjoy in peace. This is right up there with mafia king kidnaps innocent civilian and falls in love (365 days type shii), billionaire playboy marries poor orphan, most popular guy falls for ugly duckling plain jane or Alpha mates with luna or bonds with omega. I watched pitbabe too btw and i loved it and it was just as bad as this. So sue me.
The point i'm trying to make genres like this exists for people like me who just loves consuming them, because you honestly dont need to think hard very hard, its usually funny, there's always a happy ending, and it proves that out there, there's really someone for everybody and you too will find love, because love is beautiful and it doesn't judge you. It comes exactly when you need it.
And that's why i adore this show and why i kept tuning in. The happiness on Pat's face whenever Elyes loved on him. That glow. I mean the penis must have been phenomenal too but dang they was in love. And i loved it regardless of the misunderstandings; even with kim (damn kim. Aww you'll get yours too king), teeranai, thiti, the ex girlfriend, feilong with the; clunky loafers, one outfit and white ankles and Run. Btw Run is gorgeous. Big s/o to the casting team. Everyone is a snack. Run, Thiti, Kimhan. TOPTIER
...….......Even with all those misunderstandings they worked it out and now he got the happy ending he was so afraid to hope for because he thought he didn't deserve it. Many a times I wanted to slap Khun Elyes for being a dog bastard but as the great draya michele once said "your hoeness can be deleted". So as far as Pat's concerned Elyes is as pure as driven snow. But Pat's a better person than me cos I would have dragged kim's ass for kissing my man. I don't play like that. Fool was up there crying.
And the exposition was crazy. A character would narrate a whole backstory without drawing breath randomly to explain a situation they could have just woven into the scenes. And the flashbacks were even worse.
Overacting
Well they tried they best. A lot of times James was a bit forceful and did look like he wanted to burst out laughing but Kad was able to compensate for that and at times the cast were stiff with each other but they carried they roles well. A lot of them were first timers as actors and i gave them grace I did read the book and i think they sold this buswreck as best as they could. But i busted out laughing a lot whenever teeranai was in his villian era.
Music
Yeah. The soundtrack was a mix of early 2000s telenovela osts and 80's porno bgm. Especially in the beginning but you'd eventually get used to it. The music was at most times used to set the mood of scenes of smoke filled tension, rose tinted lust, jealousy, anger, teeranai...etcetera
Disappointment
In the book they had a character in a wheelchair. Jz i believe whom had a partner. That would have been nice to see on screen bring some diversity to thai shows esp for PLWDs community. But i guess the budget went as far as it could. Hmm
Conclusion
I looked forward to this show everyweek. I'd make tea lay om my bed and have a grand ole time. The show is honestly not that bad. I understand why a lot of people were impatient with it. I also have complained about shows like this. But this particular one had a certain charm. It must have been that first scene of Pat having flashbacks of Elye's flash bang...anyways I loved it and i suggest that before starting it you realise that this show should be taken at face value and If you dont like it that's perfectly fine. But complain once and leave us to our trashy show lol
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Bad Guy, Bad Story, Bad Acting
Not the story I expected. I was thinking that Pat will leave Elyes' company and move to another company after all the heartaches but still managed to stay, and that makes it boring. Too much cheating that it turned so toxic.Pat should know how to knkw self-worth. Elyes doesnt deserve to be loved. Fei Long may be an a$$hole but at least who knows what true love is.
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Good Guy, My Loss
A Review in Two LettersLetter 1. From James/Elyes to Me:
Dear Meng,
Forgive me for not writing sooner, but, something strange is going on. As you know, I left Auckland to take up a new position in Bangkok, and I was really looking forward to it. However, since coming here, my world has turned upside down. Completely. I fear I may have left the real world behind, and might now be the lead in a Thai BL. Is this a good thing? Or bad? Help!
Since I stepped foot in this beautiful country, people keep calling me handsome. It has never happened before. Men, women, children, pigeons... they all call me handsome. That was the first clue. I have also lost most of my body fat. You can now see muscles in my body that I did not know existed. Then there is my skin. You’d think that, even with sunscreen, my translucent skin would become more and more tanned, being this close to the equator. But, if you can believe it, I’ve become paler. I suspect someone has been applying a thick coat of make-up on me when I'm asleep, all over my body, and it refuses to come off when I shower. You’d also think that the humidity of Bangkok would mess up my hair into unmanageable frizz. But no, every strand perfectly falls into place, even when it's wet with lube or shampoo.
I am the head of a company whose name I do not know, and whose business I do not understand. I wear suits. It is 35 C outside and I wear suits. I do not sweat. For some reason, I also cannot button up my shirt. Every time I try, it keeps unbuttoning itself, sometimes down to my waist. I go up to my colleagues showing my nipples and navel. Is this sexual harrassment?
I have an assistant. His name is Pat. At this time, I’m pretty sure we have an abusive relationship. I think I’m still gay in this world, or at least bi, but I’m not allowed to say it. Everytime I try to, someone chokes my throat. Not sure who. (Also, all the men in this world seem to be gay, except for one friend of Pat’s. Who would have thought it? Gay friends are no longer the side-kicks, but straight men are. Progress?) Anyway, this assistant does not to do any company work. He just manages my sex life. Which, I think, takes up a good chunk of my waking hours. I know he’s in love with me, and I like him too, so it is only fitting that I treat him horribly, and make him cater to my every whim. I am obsessive, possessive, and controlling, and I'm pretty sure I'm gaslighting him too. I suspect I'll be stalking him soon, then abduct him, and keep him under house arrest. All very romantic. But he loves it... I think. Weirdly, I have this other fuckbuddy named Kim who’s much hotter, and way better in bed. Pat, by comparison, is stiff as a board, and resists me like a Victorian virgin. Yet, the BL gods have willed it that I must lust after this wet blanket.
I keep falling ill. Pat keeps falling ill. We both keep fainting, often from a cold, often caught from a single drop of rain. But we don’t go to the doctors. Oh no. We unbutton our shirts instead (in my case, there's just one button left), and we gently rub each other’s white-as-chalk chests -- and, weirdly, our knee-pits, which is apparently an erogenous zone here -- with wet towels. I suppose leeches and blood-letting are no longer sexy.
Am I the arsehole here? You don’t need to ask Reddit. I am. Yet I’m sure there’s a reason for it, and a past will be revealed which will perfectly justify my present behaviour. Until then, I’ll have to put up with everyone calling me a “red flag”. Which is fine, because I hate "green flags". Only, I’m not sure I want to stay here. I know, it’s a pretty cushy life I have right now. I'm rich, hot, immensely fuckable, and answerable to no one. Who’d want to give all that up? But it sits so oddly with the world of today, and the person I was, that my conscience might not permit it. We shall see.
I’ll write if I have any updates. Pray for me.
Love,
J./E.
*****
Letter 2. From me to Elyes
Dear Elyes,
You will notice that I'm no longer calling you by your birth name, because I've been waiting for a reply to my last three letters, and have received none. I must presume therefore that you have now embraced your new identity, and are completely of the BL world, with no access to reality whatsoever.
You lucky bastard. Couldn't you have taken me with you? I hate it here. You get to live in a world where homophobia does not exist, where the majority of men are gay, and where straight people exist just to support you. A photographic negative, in other words, of the real world. Worse, in your world, you are also apparently rich, handsome, and attractive to anything that can breathe, all of which makes me want to run to my GP and ask for a prescription for Ozempic and Rogaine. Only, I can't afford either, because, in this world, I don't even have a pot to piss in.
Admittedly, there is a Mephistophelean bargain here: you've been reduced to a mere stick figure without any psychological depth or complexity, upon whom is foisted the most boring of lives, and the most nauseating language. But who cares? I just want a happy ending -- in every sense of that word. So do you, and so, certainly, does the audience, most of whom will eat this up no matter how horrible you are, and no matter how "toxic" they find you. And when the show "redeems" you, which it doubtless will, all the people who once screamed "red flag" at their screens would now cheer for you and Pat. Where's the incentive then to be good or have a personality? Sod it. You do you, girlfriend!
I was, for a moment, sad for you, because you are now trapped within the confines of this world, and must live out the same segments of your new life over and over again. But I soon realised that's jealousy talking. You get to be perpetually young, perpetually rich, and perpetually happy, while others around you, including the man you supposedly love, get perpetually abused, insulted, or shoved aside. I suppose that that, at least, is a faithful enough reflection of the real world. But then, we *know* the real world is horrible. Otherwise, none of us would be watching Thai BLs now, would we?
That said, a large part of me is also quite angry. Not with you, necessarily, but with the writers. On the one hand, I have lost you as a friend, and that makes me sad. On the other, I'm angry that the writers have written you into this cheap, derivative, lifeless world, instead of creating for you, and for us, a fantasy that is more worthy of you, less demeaning to others, and had greater ambitions. But then the gods of Thai BL have decided that stories such as yours, which they keep churning out at the rate of one a week, is all that its audience deserves. And why not? We keep coming back, because, evidently, we are all masochists here, and we will put up with any amount of suffering to see an imaginary glimpse of happily-ever-after.
I don't want to end on a wistful note. I shall miss you, and I miss the best days of Thai BL. But I want you to be happy. Do us a favour though, will you? When you do get together with Pat, for the tenth time no doubt, have the decency to dick him down properly. I mean, dick him down so properly that he will never have cause to complain again -- except perhaps of having to limp to work. The poor lad deserves at least that, don’t you think?
Take care, my friend.
Love,
Meng.
Reader's Digest:
DO SAY: Blame it on the Bossa Nova
DON'T SAY: What's HR?
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And the award goes to
Certainly not them. This was so painfully disastorous that it was laughable. Pat was the proverbial door mat. No, paddle ball. The more Elyes would hurt him, he would pull away, only to come back for another rap, to pull away again. Not that I cared. They were all distasteful except for Pat's female co-worker, Kim and Run. There really was nothing of interest that would warrant 12 episodes.Elyes - controlling, obsessive, manipulating, condesending, whore
Pat - idiot
Kim - loyal fwb
Run - didn't know the meaning of his own name. Stuck around in an abusive relationship in the name of love. A loyal idiot
Fei Long - abusive, controlling, despicable, insecure, obsessive, coercive
Thiranai - ineffective petty clown
Base line: poor script. Terrible acting. Sub par apologies for hurtful behavior. Misleading messages delivered in the resolution of issues. Really not worth the effort. Rewatch - never.
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BAD! TERRIBLY BAD
The show is so bad, yet it has a knack to it that made me watch the entire series. I don't know why I tuned in every Sunday to watch this, but I am happy that it is finally over.Khun Pat for the love of God have some dignity. And Khun Elyes lives up to his name of being the bad boss. Doesn't he know that if you love someone you don't ask them to arrange your FWB relations? And Khun Pat please if you wanna quit just quit. Don't come every other 4 seconds to spread your legs.
Forced sex scenes. Bad chemistry and a terrible plot.
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Bad plot and even worst acting
"Bad Guy My Boss" is a 2024 Thai BL drama that intertwines corporate intrigue with complex romantic entanglements. The series introduces Pat, a diligent secretary who finds himself enamored with his stern, mixed-race boss, Elyes. Despite the hierarchical boundaries, Pat grapples with his growing affection, while Elyes's aggressive advances further complicate their professional relationship.The narrative attempts to explore themes of power dynamics and forbidden love within a corporate setting. However, it falters in execution, presenting a storyline riddled with problematic elements. The portrayal of abusive behaviors, including physical violence, manipulation, and boundary violations, is particularly troubling. For instance, a character commits murder, yet the storyline inexplicably expects viewers to support his romantic endeavors shortly thereafter. This normalization of abuse undermines any potential for meaningful character development and sends a concerning message to the audience.
The plot is further bogged down by an overabundance of love triangles and rivalries (which is a plot point even in the last episode), which dilute the main storyline and create unnecessary confusion and drama. The frequent use of flashbacks and flash-forwards disrupts the narrative flow and leaves viewers disoriented regarding the timeline. Daydream sequences are poorly distinguished from reality, adding to the overall confusion.
Character motivations often lack coherence. For instance, a character devises a convoluted plan that involves acting antagonistically without any subsequent growth or redemption. Production missteps are evident, with mismatched musical scores, awkward camera angles, and jarring 360-degree shots that detract from pivotal scenes. The antagonist is portrayed in a clichéd manner, epitomized by scenes of him sipping wine on a black couch in an empty warehouse—a trope that feels outdated and uninspired.
Logical inconsistencies plague the storyline. Characters make baffling decisions, such as failing to communicate crucial feelings or choosing to harm unrelated individuals instead of directly confronting their primary targets. The depiction of authority figures is unrealistic; a CEO commanding doctors and police officers without plausible justification stretches credibility.
And the worst of it all is, in my opinion, the acting. If the acting was good and the actors managed to portray the character's emotions acurately, this show wouldn't be nearly as cringey as it is. Unfortunately, both leads are horrible, hearing them talk feels like listening to someone reading off a script. They couldn't even portray anger or surprise acurately. This only makes the whole thing unwatchable. I did not like the main characters and their personalities and the actors do absolutely nothing to make these characters more endearing in my eyes. Truth be told, you don't even have to watch the whole thing to see how cringey the acting is. Just watch a scene in an episode where the characters have to display emotions and then you can decide if this is for you.
In summary, "Bad Guy My Boss" squanders its potential by romanticizing abusive relationships and presenting a disjointed narrative. Despite its attempts to offer a fresh take on the BL genre, it ultimately reinforces harmful stereotypes and delivers a viewing experience that is both frustrating and disappointing. The characters are unlikable, the acting horrible and the story lacks the charm that comes with a trope like this (think a Boss and a Babe).If you have any standards when it comes to BL, don't watch this (or you just skim through it if you are afraid of missing out).
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Une série divertissante qui devient ennuyeuse
Le début était génial : un secrétaire fou amoureux de son chef alors qu'il sait pertinemment que ce n'est une bonne personne et qui a suffisamment de caractère pour lui tenir tête quand c'est nécessaire. Malheureusement, la série tourne en rond et on finit par se lasser des conflits qui, au final, sont les mêmes. Le couple secondaire aurait mérité plus de temps d'écran car eux aussi avaient de sérieux problèmes à régler et leur histoire était intéressante.Esta resenha foi útil para você?
Terribly good-
Okay so i am guilty of being hooked by this show. I really liked the first few episodes however things got ridiculous in the last few episodes.I was impressed by James’ acting- he has really good. Micro expressions.
The story has been done before but they didn’t do it better.
Non of the characters appeared to actually be in love. It seemed very disingenuous for me. People seemed to just fall in and out of love easily. Kim declaring his love and then all of a sudden seeming okay with it all. Long Fei declaring his love only after overhearing a phone conversation. Does it make it okay that he was blackmailing his BF for years. Elys declaring his love at the end of the episode.
Everything was wrapped up in a neat little bow that doesn’t make sense.
I wish studio Wabi Sabi had picked this up as they tend to follow the books more.
Despite all that i enjoyed the show it was terrible, I mean it was bad that it became good lol. It wasn’t boring and it kept me engaged.
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