Pastsenger (2023)

Meu Cooper ????

Acabei de rever Past senger e me senti na obrigação de vir falar sobre ela, pois sempre vi muitos comentários negativos. Essa foi uma das primeiras séries BL que vi com temática de viagem no tempo, apesar de hoje (2024) esse tema já estar saturado.
É um tema que não me agrada, e confesso que comecei a assistir pelo Cooper, pois eu amo ele de paixão, parece que ele vive no formol, faz quase uma década que vejo ele em séries e sempre tem a mesma carinha marota.

Sobre o plot, eu tenho dificuldade de entender viagens no tempo, mas essa eu consegui entender muito bem. Os amigos prestaram mérito na tal árvore milagrosa e prometeram que se passassem nos cursos desejados voltariam lá e fariam uma dança, e naquele momento, Kiaw também fez uma prece silenciosa, já que fingia não acreditar. Quando tiveram o desejo atendido voltaram todos pra pagar a promessa, mas Kiaw não pagou, e ainda zombou de seus amigos, sendo assim punido com uma viagem no tempo de 20 anos no futuro.

Existem algumas nuances que fazem com que essa viagem no tempo seja tão importante. Primeiro, para que Kiaw aprendesse a dar valor às pessoas que amava. A segunda, para que ele entendesse que não se brinca com coisas sagradas, e a terceira, mudar a vida do pai do seu amado, pois quando voltou no tempo sabendo que ele morreria em decorrência do álcool, ele conseguiu convencer ele a parar de beber.

Enfim, viagens no tempo não tem um tempo definido em horas iguais, já que se tratam de espaços diferentes, como um universo alternativo. Ele passou meses no futuro, conheceu seu grande amor, conseguiu salvar a vida de seu futuro sogro e aprender a amar de verdade. Quando ele voltou só tinham se passado 5 minutos, e a solução que encontraram para a viagem no tempo não interferir no futuro foi fazer todos esquecerem da existência dele, a única lembrança vaga ficou com seu amado, mas mesmo assim só foi esclarecida bem depois. Quando ele voltou no tempo, as coisas que ele trazia (celular e relógio) não vieram com ele, pois isso poderia alterar o futuro de alguma forma. No final tudo ficou bem definido, os amantes se reencontraram e happy end.

Sobre o enredo dos romances, não senti que foi o foco principal, não senti tanta química entre Cooper e Marc, já o casal secundário teve química para dar e vender. A situação da amiga dele também não foi definida de forma correta (minha opinião), já que não houve uma cena em que ela fazia sua escolha entre os dois garotos.

Drama familiar, tivemos o do nosso prota. Tentei entender os dois lados, ele perdeu a mãe e o pai, foi criado pela madrasta, com um meio irmão mais novo, vendo esse irmão receber amor e carinho todo dia, era natural que ele fosse um jovem introvertido. Já a madrasta, perdeu também seu amor, e teve que seguir em frente para cuidar de seu filho e do filho de outra mulher, um fardo muito pesado para ela, e junto com a falta de tato que surgiu entre eles era certo que haveriam problemas familiares.

Os aspectos técnicos são todos ok, com um grande parabéns para a ost perfeita.

Amei ver Cooper de volta aos BL's, amei a série no geral, além de tudo existe um tom de comédia em vários momentos. Com certeza verei de novo e recomendo.

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SÉRIE MUITO INTERESSANTE APESAR DO ROMANCE FRACO

Já vou começar rebatendo os comentários dizendo que o final passa uma vibe de predador sexual. Parece que vocês não assistiram a série e obviamente são complexados com diferença de idade (sendo que os dois são adultos), vocês precisam de muita terapia pra saber diferenciar uma relação realmente abusiva de uma que não é, porque essa não é. Vocês precisam parar de problematizar cada coisinha que vocês veem sem analisar a situação, essa é uma atitude extremamente infantil de gente que ainda não entende como a vida funciona e reproduz tudo que vê na internet.
Agora vamos falar da série.
Essa é uma história que te prende, gosto de muitas coisas nela mas o romance em si acabou sendo deixado um pouquinho de lado, sinto que não tivemos o suficiente de romance mas o roteiro como um todo te mantem aqui.
As atuações não são as melhores do mundo mas são convincentes, essa série é uma boa pedida pra você que quer algo um pouquinho diferente mas ainda dentro de um contexto universitário.
No final acontece uma coisa que não precisava e quebrou a magia da série sem necessidade alguma (você vai saber o que é quando ver) e foi difícil continuar sem se irritar a cada minuto, mas deu "tudo certo" no final.

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Isso é uma ficção!!!

Vamos lá, não sou de escrever críticas por pura preguiça, mas lendo as outras, EU fiquei assustada.
1º O plot é bom, mesmo eu não sendo fã do tema de viagem no tempo, troca de corpos....
Então quase não vi. Vim pelo Cooper e pasmem: Gostei!
Gostei da música principal (letra linda e emocionante), gostei dos personagens jovens e dos adultos, da história e até do final!
" ahhh ele podia ter ficado no futuro!" " esse homem tão mais velho, parece um abusador!" Foi o tipo de coisa que li.
Entendi: Ele pode viajar no tempo, ficar no futuro, mas não pode ficar com um cara 20 anos mais velho... Sei......... ^^
Sendo ficção pode acontecer o impensável, mas o pior que aconteceu não foi o cara viajar no tempo, foi o cara se afastar dos amigos por anos pra esperar o Bamee nascer e crescer longe dele??? O olhar, que EU só vi de saudades, ansiedade e amor. Foi incomodo????
Vamos lá, de novo: Atores Tailandeses não são tão bons assim, mas também não posso ser levada muito a sério porque sou exigente mesmo. kkkkkkk
Roteiro, direção, continuidade, som, tudo não é do melhor. Os finais são sempre corridos, o que acontece nas produções coreanas também. Não achei boa a escolha de ator do Kiew adulto, mas quem eu acredito que combinaria não iria participar de um BL, ainda tem esse preconceito lá. Sabemos disso.
Então a série estava como a maioria. Boa, porque amamos, os atores e o clichê fofo.
No final o que podemos observar, na maioria das vezes quando tem muita critica sobre algo em uma série é: As pessoas projetam seus traumas, mesmos que desconhecidos. Criticar é um desabafo do seu inconsciente. Tudo tremendamente normal, desde que não prejudique os outros.
Acredito que quando vemos algo que nos faz sentir desconfortáveis devemos nos acolher, que está tudo bem se sentir assim e pensar no porquê e o que fazer pra melhorar.
Então, leia isso e pense se você vai se sentir bem, como eu, ao assistir à esta série fofa com final corrido. ; )
Fiquem bem!

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humor, viagem no tempo e amores

Past Senger surgiu com uma tematica pouco usual que é a viagem do tempo, trazendo bom humor, atuações boas, um inicio com enemies lovers.
Past Senger trouxe referencias dos anos noventas, as confusões com as modernidades vividas por Kiao trouxeram uma leveza a trama que teve episódios extremamente sem nexo com a trama.
O casal secundário brilhou na fofura jovial.
Past Senger terminou de uma maneira interessante mas a forma que terminou caberia mais alguns eps pois seria legal ver como um casal com diferença de idade ia se portar e seus dramas caberiam muito bem numa segunda temporada ou um especial.

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CREEPY CREEPY ENDING

I couldn't emphasize enough how that ending is giving creepy sexual predator vibe.

This fantasy-scify has a very unique main story. A guy from the 90s is transported to the present after offending a local deity (or priest). The story revolves around his adjustment to the present time and his quest to get back to his own time, all while meeting his old and making new friends, and of course it wouldnt be a BL if theres no romance so finding the unexpected love of his life is a given.

The end. Or actually that should have ended it.

First of all, whoever thought that title Past-senger should be given a raise, because thats the only witty thing in this series. Title alone summarizes what Kiew is - a traveler from the past and the first few episodes has also successfully explored the concept of a time traveler adjusting to his life in the present. However things got boring so fast and the slow and repetitive pacing bored me with almost nothing significant happening in the middle episodes.

The whole series screams low-budget. The cinematography is giving an old tv soap opera vibes and combine that with poor makeup is a total disservice to the artists. Here we are bombarded with a lot of close up shots that exposed the actors in a bad way.

I also dont know if anyone noticed how grating the background sound is - that monotonous guitar strum will sometimes be exchanged with an equally annoying piano or musicbox melody that only highlights how much they spend on music. These background music were utilized so unfittingly that it gives me headache and muting the show became a necessity.

Seriously, can anyone raise theiir hand if you think literally tripping or falling over someone is romantic? I have never known any couple in real life with that experience and to see that happen in almost every other series out there is so infuriating.

I can forgive the script (i will blame it on the poor translation) and i think the actors did what they could with what they were given. There was a few story arc (and quite a few tropes) that i wished they didnt do and the young stars is in need of major acting workshop.

I, however, liked the fact that they almost respected the concept of the time travel paradoxes (as they did it much better than a certain series with 609 in it). There were a few lapses but they are bearable.

The biggest issue is when they added that ending scene, where the present day Kiew meets Bamee again. There is an air of almost predatory creepiness in it and i think they could have handled that a little better.

Finally, I should also call out producers in Thailand to please please give Cooper a good project. This guy deserves a big break and maybe a partner who will elevate him into a bonafide star.

This series, although not exactly A-class is admittedly a guilty pleasure watch every Wednesday night. Would i re-watch? Oh hell no! Unfortunately, no matter how much fun, well intended and lighthearted the series is, it is still hard to recommend.

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Loved the series, but not the ending.

The series was a lot of fun to watch, seeing the chemistry of all the actors was great from both the adults and young adults. Love the timeline story. The couples fit together great and it kept you smiling, crying, and laughing throughout the episodes. The lead couple was great together. The only down part for me was the rushed ending. The ending I felt was very rushed and did not really make sense or fit the story. I am fine with the older and young dating if the story started like that but, sadly I was disappointed with this type of ending, I was hoping he would have stayed in the future and made a new life, but I love the series and the chemistry between the actors. The only down part was the ending, it did not work for me and did not fit the beautiful chemistry.

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Not good.

3/10 dropped, disappointed.

I wish the boy stayed by him........so bad......ending...i donk like that ending....it was weird.....
i would have liked to see much more of the beautiful main couple. I was very disappointed afterwards.
If the series had been implemented well then it would have been something. The potential was definitely there.

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Not entertaining and simply disconcerting

This series is misguided, misconceived, and misdirected. It other words, it missed. The entire series was so unfocused and presented in almost a cartoonish manner that I did not know if this was to be taken as a comedy, drama, fantasy, or romance. So how did this series fall apart? While the concept of the story itself was interesting, it never fully committed itself to seeing it to its completion. Was it a comedy? A drama? A fantasy? A romance? It tried to be everything and failed at all of it. This series went for cuteness but did not understand the price it paid to get to that end. It sacrificed a lot of integrity to get there. I found its underlying message subtly abusive and disconcerting, not funny, and mostly sad. And very little understanding of what it is like to be gay. Its negative message overpowers its cuteness and slight humor. Personally, I cannot dismiss so readily the attempted rape, the bullying, and its cringeworthy ending that made me feel uncomfortable.

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CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE!!!! CREEPY ENDING!!!

GURL.. I- *takes a deep breathe* WHAT WAS THAT ENDING?!?!?!?! Thailand... We are gonna have to have a conversation because this series WAS NOT IT. At first I was like "let me give this a go" and it did grow on me a little bit and I tolerated the bad script, hot mess scenes (there were a lot of them!!) so I could finish til the end. After like episode seven, it really started going down hill. The only thing that really kept me watching was because of Cooper and Marc. Cooper wasn't bad in My Engineer (at least I think so) but after that, he just kept getting crappy roles (My Bromance was just...) Marc is a good actor to me as well. The difference between his character in Chain of Hearts vs this one, I can tell that he has potential! Please Thailand, our baby Cooper needs a break! He needs a good series.. Anyways back to the review. Even though a lot of scenes were super cringe, I watched all the way through anyways. Filled with every cringe worthy BL trope you can think of. A lot of the scenes did not make sense. The acting was very off and there wasn't much chemistry between the characters. There were a lot of cute, fluffy moments and that saved the series a little bit. The friendships were very wholesome! I loved the connection between the characters. They were there for each other and supported one another. I also liked the fact that Kiew's friends in the future really resembled their past selves, so I was really happy with that. This series had the potential to be great, especially with the concept and what it was about. I love shows about time travel (I guess that's just the geek in me), so it had the means of being great, it just wasn't executed very well.

The ending... THAT. BOTHERED. ME. SO. MUCH!!!!!!!!! I literally closed my eyes and paused the show idk how many times during that whole scene... I was like "NO NO NO NO NO NO" the whole time. It was very unsettling to watch. That ending could have went a whole different direction. To be compeltely honest, it would have been better if both Kiew and Bamee forgot each other. I mean yes, that's kind of sad but at the same time I would have stomached that a lot better than 40 something Kiew still in love with 20 something Bamee.. Yes, age aint nothing but a number but sheesh man.. this was just cringe. Also I wish they didn't have the actor playing 40 year old Kiew staring at Bamee like a creep.. I mean he was staring at him more like a predator than someone who's "in love".

I am glad that Bamee's dad was alive. That's about the only happy thing about that ending. Really should have just had Kiew and Bamee forget each other. Kiew should have been able to keep his memories either. I mean what is that?? He keeps his memories but everyone else doesn't? Dont get me wrong, I do understand why they had to forget, but still SIGH..

Anways this was just not all that great. I wish Cooper the best. He really needs a boom a** series to break this trend he's got going on.

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I dreaded the ending from the start

The plot seemed interesting, especially because Kiew ends up being thrown into the lives of his friends and their children. He must navigate between two generations, while adapting to all the changes that happened since 1995. It had potential to be quite messy, but that was not really the route they took. Don’t get me wrong, there are situations that were not handled well, but it wasn’t as terrible as it could be.

Generally speaking, I liked the series. I do think that they really did a good job at making Kiew act like he came from the past (not knowing how to use cellphones and being amazed by technology, etc.). I was a lot less impressed by his view on LGBTQ+ community. His comments and reactions were hard to swallow at times, but it is also something that gets addressed as problematic in the series, so that is something I liked.

The characters mostly seemed realistic. I like both friend groups, and poor Kiew having to navigate between the two. The dynamics of each group were nice, but they did seem like a copy paste of one another. I think it wasn’t as obvious, as we didn’t really get a good feel for how the “old” group was when they were younger, but we only get to saw their mature versions interact. I do like how the older version of Kiew’s friend group do look similar to their younger versions. That was a good casting choice.

Kiew & Bamee: I really like the chemistry of Cooper and March, not that I expected anything less from the two. Both of them have done great with emotional scenes, and they portrayed a lot through their eyes as well. Kiew and Bamee have an enemies to lovers story going on, and I was really enjoying their bickering at the beginning. I think Kiew struggling with his feelings was more obvious than Bamee, but the latter was not as indifferent as he wanted to appear.

Plawan & Mudaeng: a pairing I didn’t know I needed, but they make so much sense. I am not happy with how fast Plawan seemed to move on from his crush on Bamee (especially to his brother), but that is also something that is in a way brought up. So, kudos for that. I really love the way the two interact, they are very lovey-dovey with one another and super cute. I found Plawan kind of childish and Mudaeng can be quite mischievous at times, but I think they match each other well.

There are things that don’t really make sense to me, plot wise. Especially towards the end when Kiew is trying his best to return to his time. Wouldn’t it be a lot less painful for those involved to do things differently? If you have to leave, people not remembering you would be best. Because remembering you would mean missing you. And missing you would be painful.

I do think the makeup was not really done well in a few scenes. And the camera panning in or out was done in a strange way. I don’t really know how to explain it, but it didn’t feel right. I do like the OST though.

One thing I have dreaded since the start, was the ending. No matter how I look at it, no matter how it ends, it knew it won’t be a happy ending. Kiew will either not go back, meaning he won’t be able to fix what he wants to fix. Or he will go back, breaking both his and Bamee’s heart in the process. Either way, it didn’t look good (I do know how it actually ends; I’m just not saying anything). I do not really like how it ended though. It did ended up being creepy, and not romantic as they were probably going for.

So there is one more thing… I might be reading too much into it, but the way Kiew talked about Art (Bamee’s dad) made me think that he might have had a crush on him. It is possible that he wasn’t fully aware of it or that he was in complete denial. For whatever reason, I found it really uncomfortable how he would always compare Bamee to Art (e.g. both not liking taking pills). It made me think that in a way, he transferred the feelings he had for Art onto Bamee, and with gay relationships being more accepted in the modern world, he was only then able to show his feelings. But who were they actually for? Bamee? Or Art? It might be just a silly theory of mine, but it’s been bugging me since the start.

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It should have a sad ending and then everything will be alright

I am trying to think of the series as a whole thing and judge it based on all the episodes. But I just can't, the ending killed every little good thing about it (and there weren't that many, to begin with). The cast was good. I think they fulfilled the roles they were given, but I admit it wasn't anything exceptional. Since 5e whole plot is travelling into the future, you are prepared from the beginning that there is a big possibility, that it won't end well. You have a mother who died after her son went missing so of course he has to go back. But the fact that many many years later he still approaches a teenage guy like that really didn't sit well with me. He should have cherished him as a beautiful memory and even if they met so many years later he should just step back and watch him from afar. I admit the ending was kinda making me a little Ill. Maybe it's thanks to the fact I am now over 30 but relationship where there is a big age gap and one of the couple is still a kid, it just doesn't sit a well with me.

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