Ton Hon Chon Tee (2020)

A princípio o comecei por querer ver algo clichê e leve, por começar a ver bl a pouco decidi dar uma chance.
De cara gostei de Chon, sua personalidade e sua fofura, o Ton, é muito ambíguo, não o vi como homofobico, mas sim como alguém que cresceu aprendendo que tinha a obrigação de seguir os negócios da família e dar herdeiros aos pais, mas sua possessividade realmente era irritante.

Vendo o último capítulo, me fez pensar que ele podia ter um melhor aproveitamento e em resultado também ter um melhor desenvolvimento no romance. Como disse anteriormente, nunca o vi como homofobico, mas suas ações não têm sentido, pois parecia que havia dois enredos brigando entre si. O queriam homofobico ou ignorante? Os dois? No final, não souberam escolher nenhuma dessas alternativas. Confuso? Eu sei, foi como senti com essa "reviravolta” do final. Ele parecia sempre está cozinhando tudo no banho-maria. Nunca ia para trás ou para frente. Apenas nunca se dava uma chance, mas também não deixava Chon ter.

Ai, Ni e Miriam eram divertidos, às vezes me irritava com as ideias de tentar juntar Chon e Ton à força. Amei a amizade de Pang com Chon. Confesso que no começo Na me irritava por exibir sua riqueza, mas com o tempo descobri que era apenas uma fachada para ter amigos. Ele desde o início deixava claro seus sentimentos por Chon, sempre foi bom amigo para o mesmo e foi o único que não passou pano para Ton sobre suas atitudes. Com certeza meu personagem favorito.

No início estava feliz por não tratarem as mulheres como inimigas, mas daí surgiu a ex Amp, o que achei que seria um arco rápido virou algo arrastado que envolveu até plano de tentativa de estupro. Taí outra coisa que me incomodou, por que a falta de busca por justiça, foi esquecido como se não fosse um crime. Me pergunto se isso é algo recorrente dos BL.

Alguns pontos negativos ficaram com a forma machista de tratamento que o pai de Ton tratou as mulheres até o final, como se só servissem para gerar bebês, a demora no envolvimento do casal, só aconteceu no episódio oito, deve imaginar o quão corrido foi e precisava de um melhor desenvolvimento, aliás para o casal coadjuvante também.
O final é feliz, porém podia ser melhor, se tivesse focado só nas partes leves e fofas, sem truques, ex chata, e claramente uma tentativa de estupro. Com certeza teria sido melhor.

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Depois do review, passei a gostar

Assisti essa série quando lançou, em 2020, e assisti super ansiosa por cada novo ep, já que a série foi muito aguardada. Confesso que na época me decepcionei bastante, não foi o que eu havia idealizado, e somado à isso, a crítica negativa sobre a história estava em todos os lugares, de forma absurda. Terminei, gostei do final, mas não foi uma das minhas preferidas. Agora, em 2023, decidi rever a série numa maratona, e como normalmente acontece, mudei totalmente de opinião sobre tudo. A crítica mais contundente na época do lançamento era sobre o personagem do Tonhom, que era homofóbico, e eu como parte da comunidade LGBT me senti bem chateada com esse personagem. Hoje vejo como fui infantil na verdade. As séries são histórias de ficção, mas que retratam coisas do cotidiano, e INFELIZMENTE a homofobia faz parte do nosso cotidiano, por mais triste que seja pensar e dizer isso! Entendi que a ideia da série, era mostrar a evolução do personagem, que no final de tudo virou um gado apaixonado do Chonlatee, que virou o jogo com gosto. Dito isso, vamos às minhas percepções.

O enredo da série é engraçado, e os atores fazem humor muito bem. Tem muitos clichês, e todos gostosinhos: o casal apaixonado desde criança, sendo que um aceita e o outro mente pra si mesmo, família homofóbica querendo herdeiro, ex- namorada surtada, amigos super do bem. Cada personagem tem sua história independente, e suas histórias todas se interligam entre si, fazendo a série ter coesão. Nai e Ai são "amigos" que em segredo são amantes, justamente por saberem que Tonhon é homofóbico, ou pelo menos demostra ser (essa parte precisa de uma explicação mais elaborada), isso foi algo que não gostei de início, achei um absurdo amigos viverem se escondendo de um outro amigo, era como se estivessem apoiando a homofobia deles. Mirian, que em sua primeira noite no bordel acaba conhecendo Ai e Nai e se salva de virar prostituta. Apesar de toda a carga de humor da personagem, não pude deixar de pensar que essa deve ser a realidade de milhares de garotas por aí, que por falta de dinheiro e oportunidade tem esse destino. Na, que de início eu excomunguei, mas depois entendi que ele tinha um coração enorme, e suas atitudes eram como uma defesa do mundo, que talvez não tivesse proporcionado a ele amigos de verdade, sem interesse em sua riqueza. A irmã de Tonhon, que graças a Deus era a lúcida da família, e seu problema no casamento, que confesso não saber se realmente existe tal transtorno, mas se existe, que bom que foi abordado. A ex de Tonhon que é o estereótipo criado e alimentado pelos BL's durante anos, da ex namorada raivosa. Não gosto desse clichê, e no caso dela ainda existia o agravante dela não amar ele de fato, tinha apenas interesse em seus bens. O amigo da ex, um cara totalmente sem escrúpulos, tenho um ponto positivo e outro negativo sobre a aparição desse personagem: O negativo, é que não percebi ninguém recorrendo à justiça depois que ele tentou ESTUPRAR Chon, isso é totalmente absurdo e super comum em BL'S, totalmente inaceitável. O positivo foi ver ele provar do veneno da amiga, quando percebeu que ela não agia por amor e era totalmente homofóbica, e ele como gay que era, sentiu na pele. Os pais de Tonhon que sinceramente, são a personificação da sociedade homofóbica! Ora, como queriam um filho de outra forma, se ao perceberem a orientação sexual do garoto a coibiram de forma que ele nem percebeu, de todas as formas possíveis? incutindo em sua mente durante toda a vida ideias machistas e preconceituosas? Além disso, o pai extremamente machista, parece achar que as mulheres são incubadoras, só servem para gerar filhos e pronto, não gostei da naturalização disso. Sobre Tonhom, é perceptível que ele não é homofóbico, ele finge pra si mesmo ser, e acaba externando isso para o mundo, como se estivesse o tempo todo em uma briga contra si mesmo, e que bom que ele perdeu a briga e se entregou ao amor. Achei fofo quando foi mostrado que ele sempre gostou de Chonlatee e percebeu os sentimentos dele, e que fez de tudo para tê-lo por perto, mesmo tentando fugir de sua sexualidade. Quanto à Nam, olhei e gritei: perfeita! Mãe exemplar, pessoa maravilhosa, melhor sogra e disposta a brigar com o mundo pelo seu filho, capaz de gritar e exigir respeito quanto à orientação sexual dele. Melhor pessoa!!! Talvez por isso, Chon, apesar de ser fofo e inocente, é forte como uma rocha, íntegro e não leva o desaforo pra casa, ele é morde e assopra na mesma proporção.

Sobre os aspectos técnicos, eu gostei da atuação, da fotografia, da ambientação, das locações, a única coisa que não gostei foi da ost!

Resumindo, depois de rever a série, mesmo admitindo que existem pontos negativos, com certeza passei a gostar mais dela, e com certeza recomendo!

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NÃO É HORROROSO MAS TAMBÉM NÃO É BOM

O começo dessa série é muito promissor com cenas coerentes e engraçadas mas se perdeu rapidamente.
Chonlatee é apaixonado por seu melhor amigo Tonhon mas ele supostamente é hétero então isso acaba levando a situações que vão fazer Tonhon perceber que ama o melhor amigo.
O desenvolvimento é fraco e tem muita interferência de terceiros o que acaba sendo desgastante de assistir e o triângulo amoroso (que eu odeio com todas as minhas forças) é patético.
Os personagens coadjuvantes fazem um ótimo trabalho no quesito humor mas exageram um pouco o que acaba deixando a trama um pouco superficial em contraste com o casal principal.
No finalzinho eles ficam juntos e tem umas cenas românticas bem ok mas eu não sinto que ele tenham a intimidade de um casal de verdade e deixou muito a desejar no quesito fan service (mal tem um selinho).

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Being perfectly honest, there was close to nothing I liked about this show. While at first, I liked some supporting characters, in the end, I was done with everyone except for Na.

Technically speaking, the plot is nothing new: guy who didn’t know he was gay, finds out he is gay and liked his best friend (ignoring the bullshit plot twist by the end). It’s simple, you can make it work, but not the way they did it here. The biggest problem was pacing. Good majority of the episodes showed Tonhon being a homophobic asshole, to magically be all “love is love” and accepting about his new found attraction in one episode. It was not gradual - he went from no homo to “love is love” in a matter of a few minutes of screen time and one day of drama time. Because of the poor directing and writing, the scenes that would usually indicate his jealousy (which would hint his feelings for Chon), truly just felt like he was angry at any gays getting close to him or his friends.
And don’t even get me started on “I loved you for a long time” bullshit, because I am about to (┛ಠ_ಠ)┛彡┻━┻.

Speaking of Tonhon… What a mess of a human being he was. The show tried to convince me that he was so homophobic, because of his dad, but I didn’t buy it. He was a grown up man, he was not living with his parents, no one from his circle of friends was openly homophobic, and looking at some scenes in the 2nd half of the show, only his ex-girlfriend was homophobic. This leads to one conclusion: he was ignorant, unwilling to learn or to change his mind. I already talked about his unrealistic switch of personality, but what makes it even worse: he gives shitty excuses after breaking a promise. The fact he kept claiming as if he did not cheat on Chon was laughable. You kissed your ex. That’s it. There is no excuse that would make it not cheating (in the scenario they presented). Except for his looks, he had no redeeming qualities. I have to ignore the revelation of him loving Chon since they were kids, because it contradicts everything that was shown in the previous episodes.

At first, I enjoyed Chon a lot. I liked how he did not judge people based on their looks, occupation and sexual orientation. He was a sweet boy with a massive crush on his best friend. But then a whole “let’s bait/force Tonhon to come out and admit his feelings, even though he is obviously not ready” plot hit me in the face, and the only thing I could think about was: this is gross.

Ai, Ni and Miriam are guilty of the same “crime”. Again, I adored their characters at first, especially Miriam. The more I thought about the situation though the more borderline toxic they became. One could ask, what was toxic about the adorable Ai and Ni? Well… For starters, they enabled Ton’s homophobic behavior. How the guy was supposed to learn that being gay is not bad, when even his closest friends were agreeing to every homophobic line he was saying and went with all the crazy ideas of “what a real man should do” he had? I call that being bad friends. Miriam was quite a busy body and one of the biggest supporters of forcing Ton to come out. Enough said.

Amp was just trash. That’s it. Nueng was trash 2.0. He tried to rape Chon is a toilet, when Chon was drunk. And no one had close to any reaction to it. Like it’s not a crime. Like what he did was not disgusting. I am so done with this trope, and the fact the perpetrator is never dealt with in a just way. Yes, let’s just ignore and not seek any punishment for attempted rape. No big deal in the land of many BLs I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

I liked Chon’s mom, but then she went “if husband and wife have a disagreement they should sit down and talk about it”. LADY! This is not a disagreement. The dude cheated on your son. Honestly, her whole speech about “don’t let that one woman ruin your relationship” was out of place.

And now, the only saving grace characters wise: Na. His behavior at first was a bit frustrating. He seemed extremely overconfident and too full of himself. The more I got to know the guy, the more I started to adore him though. From the beginning he was honest and straightforward about his feelings and intentions. He was clear about the fact he is truly going to “hit on” Chon, and for him it’s not about making Ton jealous. Even after he got rejected, he was the one to support and talk with his love rival, making sure he is ready to accept his feelings and it’s not too much of a burden to him. He was just truly a good guy surrounded by trash and semi-trash.

Also, can anyone explain to me why they censored Ni and Ai kissing scenes, because that was one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen. It was so obvious Toptap and Mike did not kiss once during the whole show, and that’s why the scenes of them being lovey-dovey with each other were cut in such weird places. If the actors for any reason cannot kiss on screen, either don't write any kissing scenes for them, or recast the characters.

Anything else I enjoyed except from Na? The production value was high. The show was pretty. I also did enjoy the cute scenes we got by the end between Ton and Chon. Don’t get me wrong, I was still pissed how nothing makes sense plot and pacing wise, but it was cute for the few seconds here and there when I was able to turn off my brain. So yeah… that would be it.

And you know what is the worst? All the problematic things in the show were added, and they don’t exist in the novel. And I’m just sitting here asking: why? What is wrong with people?

Overall, this ain’t that guys. The only reason I finished the show was to see how bad it will get. And let me tell you, it got worse with each and every episode.

+ Can we talk about the fact Miriam is pregnant? Okay... no. I don't want to think about that ridiculous plot line at the end.

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frustration at its finest

tw// mention of rape

the trailer made me go, "oh! this doesn't look so bad! it looks cute and light! let's go for it!". well... the drama in its entirety is a hot mess. no, it's not the spicy good kind of mess that makes me look forward for more episodes. it's the mess that makes you wonder what went through the heads of the writers.

one thing that made me hooked into wanting to watch this is the actors from past dramas i watched. i honestly kinda feel bad for the the actors because it feels like they were trying their best to make up to portray their characters. sadly, there's literally no depth to the characters despite ton's dad brainwashing his son with such nonsense and misogynistic beliefs. the writers had the chance to give depth to ton's character and show his side of the story but we got absoluTeLy nothing! so, the whole time i couldn't help but detest ton because he was honestly being such an ass and made chon uncomfortable in the early episodes pressuring him about banging a girl to prove his masculinity.

three years with ai and ni.... not once did ton suspect anything going on???? i may be a clown but i haven't reached this level of clownery yet. i also couldn't find myself rooting for ai and ni when they forced chon to come out to them. another character that grinded my butters was nueng... what was the writers thinking making a rape victim attempt to rape someone????? honestly.... in each episode, i felt like i'd end up hating every single character. thankfully, characters like chon's mom, na, the nail lady and miriam exist.

the chemistry between chon and ton is not bad... but it's quite plain. the way their relationship developed itself is questionable. dude legit banged chon after confessing and chon, one who's known to always be the frantic type in such situations didn't flinch one bit. i honestly found ton unlikable and his possessiveness didn't appeal to me at all.

if there's another bl drama that features a revenge driven ex girlfriend after this, i'm officially teleporting to space because i'm so done with it.

overall, this is a drama that isn't anything new that does have a few charming points (comedic scenes and few likable supporting characters) but completely fails to keep my interest to the end.

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Enough with the misogynism and rape culture apologia, Thailand.
Just... enough.
This drama was terrible and then at the end they have a woman being whipped through the streets like some kind of mediaeval witch trial while her rapist friend gets off scot free and another woman being treated as an incubator.
I blame everyone who was melting down on Twitter about how romantic this whole thing was and convinced me to watch it when it was deeply problematic, deeply sexist and even normalised homophobia and excused sexual assault and cheating.
Just stop.
Stop.
The end.

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Worst GMM BL and that's saying something

This review is a personal opinion. It is not meant to sway or discourage anyone from watching this series.

I didn't think GMM could top the travesty that was 2gether...but TonhonCholatee makes 2gether look like it deserved an EMMY.

Who thought this was a great idea to put on the screen? These actors deserve better. I'm beginning to believe what some actors have "shaded" about GMM...how they don't know how to capitalize on some of their actors and instead gives them very little or crappy work.

This was TRASH...

All of the problematic topics were handled like crap. The script was weak, the soundtrack boring, the scenery lacking. There wasn't anything redeeming about this trash show.

Sorry...it's 2021...BLs have to evolve and some fans need to stop accepting these crappy shows.


HOLY SMOKEs...How did I manage to watch this for this long?

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ngl, one of the worst BLs ever

(This is by no means an objective or organized review)

I went into this series with a decent amount of expectation because I like the cast. And in most cases, I like the story of two childhood friends growing up being lovers. HOWEVER, I am seriously disappointed and pissed for the whole series.

1. SCRIPT: Definitely poorly written. I find almost all the interactions between characters, especially Tonhon and Chonlatee, very awkward. Their romantic scenes feel to me as too pushed. I understand this is a lighthearted series and the screenwriters are likely to want to make us laugh. However, some scenes are just down straight stupid.

2. STORIES: I have a lot of issues with the social responsibilities this series touched on. Of course, it does convey a clear message that all people are no less of a person because of their sexual orientation. And I firmly believe it has a good intention of de-stereotyping the LGBTQ+ community. However, here are some of my main issues with it:

- The moment Tonhon "realized" his love for Chon, the first thing he did was having sex with him. This makes this whole thing seems like THAT is what he wants (Not to mention no consent was explicitly shown).

- Tonhon’s dad’s character development process where: this is a character who can have a lot of space for development. Despite so many ways writers can make him realize his misconception, they chose to make him realize "gay people aren't all bad" under the situation of an accident, literally overnight. You may have different feelings about this scene but for me, it seems like Tonhon's dad just "forgave" them for being gay BECAUSE they helped him. There's no further open discussion about whether he actually isn't homophobic anymore.

- Women ≠ baby-making machine: the last episodes made me super angry. Tonhon's dad obviously never realized his mistake of viewing women as a utensil to make an heir. Miriam even became a surrogate mother because he wants an heir??? What in the world! I personally don't think surrogacy should be legal for many reasons (it facilitates human trafficking, surrogate mother's risks, etc.) but I understand people may have other views. However, here, while I appreciate Miriam's selflessness, the whole reasoning behind it is simply fucked up.

- Tonhon kissing Amp for his ego (to prove his masculinity???) and sure he apologized but did he realize his mistake? He literally tried to get Chon to trust him by expressing how long he has loved Chon. A person does not need to "prove" their gender expression or sexuality to other people ok? Not to mention that one's sexuality has nothing to do with one's gender expression. And Chon apologized to Tonhon even tho he did nothing wrong?? Smeh...

3. PACING: terrible pacing. Both about character development and the story going forward. There are a ton of useless scenes without pushing the plot.

I will not forgive this series for not addressing the issues above. There are many other problems that I haven't mentioned (like privacy and personal space, stereotypes about women, lack of well-portrayed characters, etc.) but these ones are what I'm most dissatisfied about.

Probably not an issue for most people, but I dislike the fact that Tonhon is just getting shirtless for absolutely no reason. I just don't need it lol.

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Trash, just trash.

There were so many stereotypes, and it was incredibly heteronormative. It was like watching a BL from about five years ago, where people were a lot less educated than they are now.

Chonlatee:

He wasn't as innocent as they made him seem. He was fine until he kissed a sleeping Tonhon. That was not okay. He also used Na. Even if Na said he didn't mind, Chon shouldn't have agreed. It was tiresome to watch Chon be so blindly in love with Ton. He was openly discriminating against the LGBTQ+ community. How is that attractive?

Ton:

Ton was just so incredibly insecure. It doesn't matter whether your parents are homophobic or not. You can still have your own opinion. Ton chose to be like that. No one forced him. The number of times I've heard the "It's okay, we're both men" in an attempt to make something not gay, Jesus fucking christ. That implies that it's okay because, well, men can't like other men, apparently. Also, it was so unrealistic how quickly he went from being against everything gay to loving Chon openly. That doesn't just happen. When he kissed Amp to prove his masculinity to his so-called friends, he lost all likeability. He was already together with Chon at that point. Also, to my disappointment, despite Na and Ton talking about the possibility of Ton being bi, Ton still went on to say to Chon that he still liked women and that he had never liked any other men except for Chon. Which basically was to say that Ton was only gay for Chon. WTF. There is no such thing. He was either bi or pan. You can NOT be selectively straight or gay.

Na:

I liked Na. At first, he might have seemed like a bit of an ass, but he redeemed himself completely. He was willing to love Chon openly right from the beginning. Even after everything they put him through, he was still there for Chon and Ton. I always enjoy bi representation. I'm glad Na got his happy ending. He deserved it.

Ai & Ni:

Their characters were almost unnecessary, in my opinion. It was so weird how the camera panned away every time they were going to kiss. As if this series was meant for literal children. Also, what gay person would be okay with living with someone that discriminates against gays all the time? They tried to make homophobia funny, I guess? Ai and Ni also forced both Ton and Chon to come out. I don't think a real gay person would force another gay person to come out.

Miriam:

She served no real purpose other than always having to fix other's idiotic choices. She was also the typical annoying BL fan that seemed to fetishize gay relationships more than actually support them.

Pang:

She was a good friend. I don't have much else to say about her.

Chon's mother:

She was one of the better characters. She was there for Chon no matter what. But she also wasn't unreasonable. She told Chon when he did something wrong, like kissing Ton when he was asleep. She lost me in episode ten, though.

Baipai:

She was okay until she outed Ai and Ni to her homophobic dad and then acted as if she was doing the right thing?

Nueng:

He was disgusting. I don't know why GMM always feels the need to have a character that tries to rape someone and then gets away with it. They hardly even acknowledged it.

Amp:

More trash. The typical jealous ex-girlfriend. Amp was just even more thick-headed than the ones before her. Probably one of the worst characters of all time. All of these ex-girlfriends in BL's make women seem crazy and obsessive. Oh, and she was also homophobic, of course.

Ton's dad:

One of the most homophobic and misogynistic characters ever. All he wanted was grandchildren. He treated his daughter like an object, a thing that only existed to give him an heir. He was completely against Ton and Chon being together until Ton's mom suggested surrogacy. Then all was fine, apparently. Also, it was Ton's dad who chose the surrogacy mother, not Ton nor Chon. They didn't even ask Ton and Chon what they wanted. It didn't matter to them, obviously. He chose Miriam, whom he earlier on disrespected because she had been a call-girl. Miriam clarified that she was still a virgin, which made Ton's dad fine with it. Disrespecting someone because of their work is disgusting. There is nothing wrong with being a call-girl or a prostitute. It's the ones that utilize these services who are in the wrong. But yeah, they didn't even really ask Miriam. They just declared her as the chosen one. In the end, everything was about pleasing Ton's unreasonable dad.

Another thing was the Wifey thing. In a same-sex relationship, there is no such thing as a husband and a wife. That's literally the whole point. There is a husband and a husband or a wife and a wife. Unless someone in the relationship says they want to be referred to as such, it shouldn't be a thing. I don't think I have ever felt so disrespected and disappointed by a BL as a woman and a member of the LGBTQ+ community. A whole other story was how many times Ton took off his shirt. I get uncomfortable when shirts are continuously taken off. It was just unnecessary to sexualize him so much.

God forbid they make another season.

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Where do we even start?

TW// mentions of sexual harassment/getting outed also use of strong language

Disclaimer: i only heard of the Novel, i've never read it // also this is just me ranting

Well what a shitshow.
What were the producers and directors thinking? This had the potential to be a feel-good drama. They really could've made a drama where the main couple is just learning to love each other without the whole homophobic plotline. They did Tonhon so fucking dirty, made him look like this jerk who hates people that are not like him even tho in the novel - he's just not like that. They could've made Tonhon this man who is just figuring out his sexuality with and Chonlatee just being there by his side and be the beautiful boy he is. This is really frustrating because there just could've been so much more. Also the storyline with Amp? So toxic, just like in so many other dramas, making women look like crazy, mean and dumb girls that don't know what they're doing anyways. Her outing Ton to his parents like that just just the cherry on top.
It's sad because Tonhons and Chonlatees actors seem to be really good friends in real life that are genuine and i was looking forward for them to have a chance to make something cute and wholesome. I hope they will get another chance to act with each other.
By the way, how is that one dude that tried to drug and rape Chon not in fucking jail????? My dude, my guy, how did Chon just walk away from that like it never happened??? And the story with Tons dad? My guy, we already have enough people on this world,,, you treating your children like breeding machines is just not it. Who even thought that that would be a good storyline?? If you wanna make him homophobic, just make him homophobic! Ton and Chon could've just worked around that because after the dad has a crackin' stroke, Tonhon just doesn't seem to be that worried anyways. I loved Chons mum though but i wanted to see her fistfighting Tons dad so bad.
When Tonhon kissed Amp in that one club or bar they were sitting in, i just knew, nah my guy, you don't deserve a happy ending. And to be honest, after all that i would've been very okay with not having a happy ending because he just didn't deserve it. Are you really that fragile, my guy? Do you really have to prove your EX that you're still into girls? That you're are so unsure in your masculinity, that you just can't let people think that there is a possibility you could be gay? You, my dude, are the weakest link! If you guys ever meet someone like that, RUN, or you will feel your braincells just packing it together and fleeing to another country.
I don't think i will ever rewatch this and i hope there are people getting back into studying film and screenwriting because this just ain't it.
Please, don't take me too seriously. This is just me ranting on an empty stomach and posting it without reading over it.
If you haven't watched this series yet, don't waste your time with it. Go rewatch your favourite BLs or something.

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