Ton Hon Chon Tee (2020)

when Humor is controversial

This post ISN'T telling you what you can or can not like, what you should or should not find humorous, or that you should or shouldn't watch this series. also its a long one.

Actually I'm taking a college course in Humor and Laughter right now and just like what y'all pointed out, humor can be used to shame or humiliate someone. But on the other hand, it could also be used as a tool to gain acceptance and agreeance. Say, a speaker says something funny and you laughed, in order words, you subconsciously agree with the speaker even though you don't vocalize it or if asked if you agree, you may not acknowledge it. (give it a sec for that to sink in, it makes sense right?)

Humor can also be used as a tool to gain attention. But what does this show do with the attention we've given it? well nothing meaningful that's for sure. For example, ep1 when Chon was molested, the scene after he had a talk with Ton. About how, NOT ALL GAYS are bad people etc. That is meaningful even though Chon was testing Ton rather than coming from a place that wants to educate him. So i was expecting ep 3 for Ton to apologize or have Chon point out how it wasn't cool to force your friend to do something they have not given consent to. But what did we get? more "humorous" jokes from Ton imitating Chon after creepily eavesdropping. What we don't get is the meaningful conversation that comes after the audience gives them the attention.

i get it's supposed to be funny. I get it's satiric and ironic and what not. But that doesn't mean I have to laugh at it or find it funny. If Ton were to start spewing nonsense like how he thinks rapists and murderers should be praised and his friends look at him like "uhmmm" but smiling as if they agree just as how they do when he spews homophobic and toxic masculinity lines, will you find that funny?

So don't tell us the obvious, we know its "humor and supposed to be funny". But we're just addressing it because it's not funny to us so you don't have to act as if we're stupid that we don't realize its humor and finding the need to point it out. We point it out because, again, there were not any meaningful conversations between the characters. Below are 3 examples, one from each episode I found disturbing and not funny.

Having a feminine gay Molest someone then later saying "IM JUST A GIRL DON'T HURT ME" is NOT funny. That is problematic on multiple layers; first molesting someone is not humorous in any way, 2nd thai BL have a tendency to portray darker skinned folks as the "villain" so to speak, and lastly it feeds into the "gay people are predators" stereotype. This is a issue of misrepresentation. (ep1)

Pushing your friend (chon) into a room with a stranger you (ton) picked out even tho the friend (chon) is EXPLICITLY saying "NO" IS NOT funny. Then later making fun of it by imitating it is NOT funny. This is an issue of consent. (ep2)

finding the need to "BUY" a fake girlfriend just to prove to your over the top masculine friend that you're 100% most definitely straight is NOT funny. That is a toxic relationship. (ep3)

I'll give you your "its satire" when Ton spews his problematic lines and it's supposed to be ironic. But the three that stood out to me (and I'm sure theres more) that I find problematic about this show is not just THAT SIMPLE. BUT the stuff I listed above shouldn't even be humorous, PERIOD.

We have identified that Humor is a tool that is used in writing, BUT it should never overshadow the plot to the point where it hurts the actual story. That is the issue we're pointing out. Not just because we have no sense of humor.

EDIT: also, as we have established, Humor can be used to SHAME. That is the point of this show. This show doesn't aim to EDUCATE but rather to SHAME (at least thats the vibe I'm getting) which is why it's toxic.

Leia Mais

Funny, fresh and professional, Love it!

After several years of BL Dramas I thought nothing could surprise me, but this one has completely blown me away. The first few episodes are absolutely hillarious. The setting of a guy surrounded by gay men who fancy him while he doesn't notice anything would be great for a sitcom.

Acting: Khaotung is phantastic, it's a pleasure to watch the emotions he can show with just his face, especially his eyes. There is a lot of overacting going on with the other actors, but in this series it adds to the fun. What had surprised me was the choice of Pod for the part of the 'straight' man because he looks very gay to me. He does a good job though.

Story: The story starts off great, but in the second half of the series it goes a bit too straight forward and even feels rushed towards the end.

Characters: I like it that the main character is allowed to be slightly feminine. I find it sad in all those series that only the straight acting guys find love whilst the feminine gays are there just for fun or for bitching. And what I really love about Chonlatee is that he is cute but not at all helpless. He even can get very fierce.

Big Plus: The series managed to avoid product placement nearly completely!

Leia Mais

Very cute series.

This was a very cute series! I really liked it. I’m not going to go into others’ reviews, and try and dispute all the problems they had with the series. Honestly, typically the lower the majority of people rate a show, the more I like it. To each their own. I loved the characters, and Podd was very good in “Dark Blue Kiss” also, so I enjoyed seeing him again in this series. I loved the chemistry between Tonhon and Chonlatee. Did their relationship have problems, and at times was problematic? Yes! But isn’t that the backbone requirement for every BL?! Chon’s mother was amazing, and parenting goals! I loved how supportive she was, and fought for her baby’s right to love whomever he wanted! I also loved seeing Toptap (Ai) and Mike (Ni) in this series, too! They are so cute and loving together. Miriam’s story was also fantastic, and I loved her friendship with the guys who saved her! The ending of this series is one of the most wholesome, heartwarming, and beautiful endings I’ve seen in a BL, and I couldn’t stop smiling the entire last episode! I loved it. I say ignore the haters, and watch this series for yourself!

Leia Mais

Once again I'm here because so many people say that isn't good...

I don't see a reason why so many here is saying such a bad things about this series. I think that wasn't the best but I liked it. Na, Ai and Ni were so sweet and my heart was melting... <3 Chon and Ton were so realistic characters especially Ton. They faced the real life issues and went through them quite well. Ton was an idiot time by time but it is like that when we're talking about life. I liked the ending even the story wasn't my favorite. Toptap's smile made my day and Ton's "I'm so in love" -face. I really recommend this series to you, at least if you have nothing better to do <3 Give it a chance and maybe you will like it. There were also some sweet moments these were so cheesy that they made me feel so single. Good watching hours ♡


(I didn't ever mean to start writing reviews, but it seems that I have to do it, bc so much criticism here)

Leia Mais

The reviews are 100% right

I'm the kind of person who rarely drops shows because it truly pains me to. However, this show made me so uncomfortable, and they made one of the main characters so unlikable I didn't give it a second thought before I dropped it. I saw the trailer for this show back before it aired, and I thought it looked like a cute show, but after viewing some of the episodes, it went so downhill with the writing and characters. I feel bad for the actors involved because I know they're good at acting. I loved Pod's character in Dark Blue Kiss and Khaotung's character in 2gether and A Tale of Thousand Stars. I don't typically listen to the reviews too much but trust me, the reviews for this show are accurate, sadly.

Leia Mais

has beed waiting for this long ago but sadly this series pushed me down to the ground

im not going to compare this with any other series so calm down.
looking back to the official trailer, i can see that this series is going to be a romance comedy one, and i really expect that much.
from the first episode, i keep pausing and skipping because of the level of cringy they put in here, really? a gay feminine act out of line bugging people out can make a bad stereotype for lgbt community.
again, silly fujoshi that act nothing but ship the main couple (but im looking forward for her speech/advice for both couple to solve problem.)
for Ton, no solid character, i know this is some kind of romcom comedy but his character is bugging me, he didnt have a clue about this person chon that he called friend or brother, but i think it's just that the writer wants the story goes like.
i keep skipping because somewhat boring, not all, but some. for those who find this series funny, you're lucky. i also hope i can enjoy this series like everyone else, i love the actors but no no, i think this is just dedicated to fujoshi being satisfied seeing two gay couple without even a proper story and explanation nor even solid character. i love bl, but if there is just two guys finally being together without proper story but just bad impression and conflict, its a big no no.

Leia Mais

First love never dies

First that catch my attention is opening of this series, in my opinion is the BL version of Stephen Chow's Royal Tramp part2 there is scene when Brigette Lin character poisoning by her enemy and the cure is she must having sex with a men. The opening also lead me to another hint, this series could be related with Chinese.
Thonhon is the only male child in his family and he is Chinese Descents. Like most Chinese and Chinese descents, having male child means continuing family name.
Thonhon is very masculine men. There is no hint that he is gay. Many people thought that Thonhon is homophobic but in my opinion he is not homophobia and he confused with his situation. With his look, I guess a lot of gay men seducing him. When Thon eat noodle with Chon, there is gay men willing to pay them to have 3 way sex. Thon mindset all gay men is feminine and seducing other men even though he doesn't know very well about the person for having sex. But on the other side, his mind is raging because he like Chon. It mean he is gay. But gay on Thonhon mind portray as feminine and (apologize) slut.
The final episode scene of Chon mom scold Thon father remain me another Stephen Chow movie, Hail The Judge and Flirting Scholar
It is clear that Chonlatee is like Thonhon. But my biggest question mark for me is, what makes Thon brave enough to broke all detention to be with Chon. He get jealous when Na start to moved with Chon but for me that isn't reason to sacrifice everything to be with Chon. Also I didn't see any Chon action to prove that he love Thon. It was Thon all the time to protect Chon while Chon almost doesn't do anything except he wash all Thon cloth including Thon underwear.
For me, Thon and Amp kissing scene is not cheat. Thon here proving that he doesn't have a heart again to Amp and kiss is doesn't matter for him. He dump Amp because she is not good for him not because he broken heart and make him traumatic in relationship again with women. This kiss was in public place with a lot of their friends can confirm that there is nothing between them. In my opinion, that not cheat at all. Chon is too rush to make conclusion and move from Thon. But...yeah, this is drama. And when this scene make you angry it mean their acting and the director are successful to deliver that scene.
One character that stealing our attention at this series is Miriam. I am glad not found any comments mention GMM romanticizing prostitution. At first they met Miriam, she stand out than other girls. Miriam was lucky enough Ai and Ni helping her out from call-house. And she prove that she is good person despite her job.
So, it is clear enough why Miriam accept the offer become surrogate mother for Thon and Chon. She need money. We don't have any solid background about Miriam but one thing for sure she became call girl because she need money. Is Miriam clever? Yes, Miriam is smart and clever, she still virgin and she is call girl meaning she use her brain to trick client so the client not touch her but the client not complain about it.
Don't confuse with surrogacy storyline. According to Thailand law, surrogate mother can be the legal guardian for the baby. That why, Chon say he chose become godfather for the baby, it has same level as parent but not strong as father or mother. I guess Chon still not comfortable to call as mom or Thon and Chon need to have discussion about who is the father and the mother on birth certificate. This is the first series that come to talk about surrogacy and adoption for gay couple after Thailand house of representatives pass the law to allow same sex couple register their union. With that law, same sex couple be able to adopt children, claim inheritance rights and jointly manage assets such as property.
This series is not perfect or great, even this series is not my favorite. Some aspects aren't developing well. There is scenes is new at BL series like the opening scenes also storyline like Miriam, surrogacy and adoption. While Thon action is questionable and Amp storyline is boring for me. This series is not perfect nor bad either.

Leia Mais

I tried, i really did.

I tried to watch this drama, i really did. I must've started Episode 1 at least 5 times and watched all the way through to episode 3. While my review is not based on the drama as a whole since it's still airing, i'm gonna go based on what i've seen and honestly, I'm not crazy about it. I...was never interested in this drama from the get-go. Based on the trailers it seemed like a very generic and basic storyline. I really only started because of TopTap.

Like I stated earlier, I really only started this drama because I love TopTap <3 I thought their couple did a good job, the comedy aspect was definitely there. I laughed so much but I don't know whether it was the show itself, the premise or how ridiculous I thought all of it was. I like Khao and Plod too but they had 0 chemistry, plus I'm a huge SunMork bias and i'm hoping they get another drama together, so maybe that affected my view of this drama? Plus, i've seen so many other great dramas this year that this one fell waaaaay below the line.

Already from the first 3 episodes I could tell I wasn't gonna finish this. I really don't know where they went wrong, how about how homophobic I felt Ton was? That alone really turned me off. Maybe they might develop his character and he'll somehow have a 'a-ha' moment of him 'discovering himself' and falling in love with Chon but I really, don't care.

I'm sorry if my review is all over the place but that's how i felt about the drama too. Maybe down the line, I could eventually get myself to finish it, but I'm gonna sit this one out for now.

Leia Mais

This series is just like any other boy love series. If you're in for the cliché, go for it.

Do not read any other review. They are spoilers and put things in a negative light and are contradicted if you pay attention to the story. You'll need to watch the full thing to understand better. Watch the series yourself and you'll get your own opinions.

I honestly loved this story. The love between the two main characters and the way their personal backstories tie everything together. I just can't get enough of it. All the missing holes gets filled in the last two episodes and it will seriously take most of the negative thoughts you had away. I wish I could say more without spoiling.

Leia Mais

Watch it for the side characters and comedy........ Story can go to hell and burn.......

*This review will have a lot of spoilers, cause imma rant, share my experience while watching the show, and talk about the good parts of the show as well.*

I'm going to start with the story, cause...boooyyyyy did it have some major issues with writing, directing and pacing. The issues taken up by the show in the earlier episodes were very interesting and got me all hyped up cause, we had a gay protagonist who had a crush on his childhood friend who is homophobic (seems more of internalized homophobia), who was living with a closeted gay couple......I mean coommmmeeee onnnnn *some serious eyerolling* IT COULD HAVE BEEN AN AMAZING SHOW. See the thing is I don't usually expect shows to talk about social issues, but if u want to take up such topics like internalized homophobia, coming out to friends, discovering your sexuality, then just brush upon those plot like most of the BL shows do, you can't rely your plot around such topic and fuck up majorly with writing these scenes, cause if not written and directed well they completely fall flat on their face and the viewers end up not feeling SHIT when these scenes appear on the screen. The show's plot majorly focused on some of these issues and the show was really unsuccessful in conveying those emotions in the viewers, hence the bad reviews we are seeing. I'm not saying don't touch such subjects, I'm just saying with such an amazing concept for plot mixed with the comedy (which was quite good), this had so much potential but was a let down because of the writing......I mean HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA cause some parts of the story were such a let down. I'll list the let downs for you -

Ai and Ni - just don't get me started on the plot of Ai and Ni, sooooo much potential storyline wasted, cause there was so much build up, with many conversations about it and even bring Miriam into the picture to hide it. I was looking forward to the coming out to be funny and effectively deliver a closure at the same time, but the whole scene was a let down and the whole scene had no depth to it, it just felt like some random filler scene. Another big complaint I have is WHY .WERE .THE .KISSING .SCENES .NOT .INCLUDED, I don't know what the problem was, if you cannot show the kissing scenes, don't include it in the script and awkwardly point the camera in a different or just awkwardly cut the scene.

Ton - I'm pretty sure assessing Ton's character from the show, it seems like most of the homophobia he had was internalized because we found out in the final episode that he liked chon since his childhood and his parents moved away so that their son forgets chon. So, having a such a homophobic father and being told that being gay is wrong, would have caused a lot of confusion in ton, as he had feeling for a boy. They tried to show hints about it using, scenes where Ton was watching SOTUS, 2gether etc.. They could have shown the development of Ton in a much better way rather than using Na as a fake rival to kinda forcefully make ton accept his feelings for chon which did not work by the way, I think the convo he had with Na about liking a guy had a much deeper effect on Ton than the stupid making ton jealous plot. Moreover this realization of feelings plot was soooooo fast.....

Toxic characters - Amp, Neung and Ton's dad, If I could I would have drowned all the three characters.......I'm so tired of the ex-girlfriend plot, I'm ready to YEET any other show with plot from my watchlist and there are many, it is such a cliched plot, it needs to buried forever cause it has been used too much to create problems for the main couple in BL shows. Neung was just an unneeded character, he literally had no role, neither was the attempted rape necessary cause lemme tell u it didn't do shit to alter the story in anyway, feels like it was he was there to just piss me off to another level......Now coming to the major ass of the show the dad, he shouldn't have been allowed to have kids, he thinks of them as baby making machines. See I don't mind a homophobic dad plot, it is getting to the overuse point too.......keeping that aside, considering it was a comedy show I was expecting a lot, but definitely not what they gave us. The moral of the whole dad plot was "Give your parents a kid then you can date whoever the freak you want", like seriously, I banged my head against the wall after that scene, that was literally the worst thing in the whole show for me.

Now, coming to the next problem with the story - the pace, it was all over the place, the episodes in the start were very well paced and the story moved at a steady pace.....but all the major chunk of the story was then crammed into the last 3 or 4 or so episodes.....It went from a steady pace of 30 to 100. It would have been much better if they had stuck to the pace and increased the episodes or you know had a slightly quicker pace from the start cause nothing much happened in the first few episode ( they were funny as hell, but the story didn't progress much.

Now that I'm finally satisfied with my rant, let's talk about the GOOD PARTS of the show.....

Chon - I liked Chon's character a lot, he is an absolute QUEEN, I like the way he doesn't take shit from amp or anyone for that matter. I feel like someone should award him for his skill of throwing water at people XDXD. He knew what he wanted from a relationship. He also knew what he could achieve and what he can't. I also like the way he made things between him and Na very clear from the beginning. (It was sad to see Na being turned down but it was the right thing to do). He did commit the crime of being a part of the making Ton jealous plot.

Na, Pang and Chon's mom - These three have become my most favorite side characters in the BL universe.
Na is a very very very good boy....*Pats Na**Hugs Na*, He was I think one of the most well written characters of the show, in the sense that we could relate to him and understand him and his actions well. He was so sincere with his feeling for Chon and even helped Ton realize about his feeling which was so much better than the jealousy plot *slaps forehead*. He stood up for chon, protected and him and cared for his happiness. Na deserves all the happiness there is <3<3<3.
Pang was such a good friend, being there for Chon, whenever he needed help or a shoulder. Being a confidant, cheerleader and guardian for chon.
Chon's mom, she currently is on top of all the mom's I loved in BL shows. She was so mature. She understood her son, gave him some kickass advice. She corrected him when he was wrong (when Chon kissed Ton without his consent). And consoled him when he was sad. She even fought for his relationship and respect. She is a SUPER MOM and I stan her......<3<3. One issue she was involved was the whole baby thing in the last episode....I'm gonna pretend that didn't happen cause I'll get the urge to slam my head against the wall again.....BAAMMMM.

Ton and Chon moments - Ton and Chon's cute moments once they started dating was very very cute and satisfying to watch. Ton caring for Chon was tooooo cuteeeeeee....<3<3. Ton's confessing on the foot bridge in the sea was very romantic...<3<3

Actors - I personally think the actors did a wonderful job. From the Protagonists, side characters to Amp *rolls eyes*(can't help it I just hate her). I love the cast, the casting team did an amazing job all the actors fit their characters well. Since, it was a comedy a little overacting was expected and it was delivered perfectly by the actors. Honestly the actors deserved a better script.

Comedy - The comedy in the show was bang on, I laughed a lot throughout the show, especially in the earlier episodes.....The comedy made the the show bearable. I absolutely enjoyed the dialogues and timing of the comedy.

So, finally overall it was a hmmmmmmmm ok kinda show, it had some fun part and some sucky part.
Will I rewatch the show, probably not.
Do I recommend the show, Yes, for the cute moments between Ton and Chon, comedy and the side characters. It had the potential to be a gem, but alas.......

*catching breath* Sorry that I rambled on for too long ToT.......If u read till the end...Thank you so much for reading :-) Do share your opinions.
Lots of Love......Byeeeee.......

Leia Mais

Episode 9

The story was really good for the first 8 episodes but then shit hit the fan really hard at episode 9 when it began taking short cuts while holding onto a string of what made the series great.

Thon kissing Amp was a terrible decision since it was cheating. And I honestly liked how Thon was trying everything to apologize, and it was going amazing with Chon pointing out his hypermasculine bullshit. But then it went downhill when Thon was talking about having always like Chon and then being taken back over the anchor tattoo.

Like no!!!!!

I personally wouldn't have Chon never forgive Thon. If the kiss meant something, HELL YEAH! But it didn't. The real problem was how Thon was raised by his homophobic sexist father.

If the writers had mixed in the plot of the parents figuring out and Thon still apologizing, it could've set up a great story of Thon truly realizing his errors, fighting for his love by improving himself through like listing all the things he's done in the past, add what he now knows is correct, and display his understanding before Chon. And his friends could've helped him along the way by setting up camps at Chon's backyard, watch hypermasculine movies out there, have Thon making food for Chon to eat upstairs.

Also Nam could've addressed about how being cheated on was like for her, how it was different compared to Chon's because those men never bothered to show true change, but Thon was trying his absolute best. Its difficult to trust again, and Chon didnt need to all the way at first. Just give a little opportunity for Thon to prove himself.

Something like this.

Leia Mais

Muy buen drama

No entiendo mucho las otras reseñas, pareciera que no entienden la trama. Para comprenderlo hay que hablar que en Asia, y Tailandia no es la excepción, la homofobia es muy grande y además se le pone un peso muy grande a los hijos quienes deben ser de tal forma para no deshonrrar a los padres. La homofobia real es la del padre de Torhon, lo de este es una forma de lidiar con sus verdaderos sentimientos y lo que su familia le carga sobre sus hombros. Por lo que he leído de Tailandia me animaría a decir que es bastante real esta situación, como así el hecho de que muchas parejas se arman por comodidad (o conveniencia) y no por amor real. De lo que si peca (al igual que todos los BL Tailandeses) es de poner un universo gay muy amplio en familiares/amigos/compañeros cercanos, de los protagonistas. La serie hasta ahora (Capítulo 6) está bien tratada, con humor y actuaciones creibles (cuando se entiende el contexto social de donde viene, muy diferente del de occidente).

Leia Mais