Still 2gether (2020)

O MESMO BROMANCE SEM BRILHO

Esses 5 episódios foram quase uma segunda temporada mas sinceramente, se era pra manter os mesmo problemas da temporada anterior era melhor nem fazer.
Eu ainda fico chocada em como esse casal não tem química e parecem 2 irmãos morando juntos e fazendo coisas de irmãos, isso não deveria acontecer em um BL, até quando as cenas se propõem a ser mais carinhosas e íntimas não parece natural, e um simples selinho consegue ser extremamente forçado (sendo que beijos e sexo é algo completamente normal e saudável em um relacionamento entre adultos).
Além disso é uma história bem esquecível, não é nada demais.

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broxa

gente que bosta serio, assisti na esperança dos problemas das temp anteriores serem resolvidos I SIMPLESMENTE ELES PIORARAM COMO PODE. os divos simplesmente nao se pegam genyw como? nao faz sentido eles moram juntos NA MESMA CAMA SEM CONTAR QUE O SARAWAT É UMA DELICIA COMO NAO ROLA UMA CENINHA DE AMASSOS DESZES DOIS COMO PQ, sem contar a problematica de os mores nao conseguirem viver sem o outro, gente isso ai se chama dependencia emocional ta pq disso ai eu sei bem💔💔💔. de vdd ate os outros casais conseguem ter mais quimica que eles, af eu d vdd pensei qesses extras iam ser pra dar um final digno p eles mas do mi decepcionei😭

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Final verdadeiro de 2gether

Essa mine série especial provavelmente só foi feita pra concertar o final de 2gether, que terminou de forma abrupta. E conseguiu. Alem de ter acertado as pontas com coisa inacabadas na temporada passada ainda conseguiu desenvolver de forma completa os casais, dando cada um seu momento pra se desenvolver e evoluir, menos pro wat e o tine, esses idiotas que só se comem sem perder a heterossexualidade.
Alem da série não ter conseguido corrigir a cagada que eles fizeram no relacionamento deles, a série conseguiu piorar, tampando a falta de intimidade que eles tem, COM DEPENDÊNCIA EMOCIONAL.
Olha, eu entenderia se fosse um problema com os atores e os produtores concerta-sem isso nesse especial, mas não, os atores improvisaram quase todas as cenas de cotidiano de um casal de verdade, ou seja podia ser pior, ou seja, os produtores preferiram colocar um marmanjo de 20 e poucos anos chorando enquanto fala com um bonequinho igual um doente mental por ter ficado nem duas semanas longe do boy dele, além de ter postado toda a vergonha que ele tava passando na net. E se você acha que com o tine foi ruim? Com o sarawat foi pior, além de ter que enfrentar a dependência emocional ele também teve que enfrentar a privação de celular que resultou nele alucinando que o namorado dele estava com ele enquanto ele abraçava um bonequinho enquanto tratava o boneco como seu namorado, o episódio 3 e 4 foram vergonhosos de verdade.
E depois de ter visto o sarawat fazendo uma prova de amor pela quadragésima vez eu só queria que alguém pelo amor de deus tirasse aquele violão da mão dele, ele ter feito isso uma ou duas vezes? Ok, fofo. Agora criar tudo um plot de novo pra ele ter que confessar seu amor pela oitava vez já e demais, alguém da um tiro nesse cantorzinho pra ele mendigar dinheiro em outro canto por que não tá dando. Alem que o tine e incapaz de expressar seus sentimentos sem cagar nas calças, a única esperança que eu tenho e que no final dos especiais finalmente fomos servidos com um beijo decente desses atores.
Mesmo com tudo isso a série ainda conseguiu fechar a saga com chave de ouro, finalizando os casais formados e dando mais desenvolvimento aos antigos, além de ter dado mais cenas icônicas entre o grupo no último episódio performando o caos que me atrai.

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Still 2Gether: A Damage Control or How 2 Save Your Series

This season was clearly done to save this series after lackluster finale/final third of season 1. It very obviously addresses most of the complaints and comments we as viewers had while watching the original series and brings back everything we loved at the beginning.

And you know what? I liked it! I had a good time watching this!

Thanks to this bonus season, the first season of 2Gether wont leave such a bad taste in my mouth anymore, because i know this exists!

This is the first time in my life that i have seen such an attempt to save a piece of media that went downhill. And i honestly respect it, no matter if the driving force behind this season were money or actual genuine effort to save this series that stems from love for the source material. We could discuss their intentions ad infinitum but simple existence of this bonus season means they care about it.

The story was simple but entertaining. Besides damage control, the script focused on all the things we as viewers enjoyed - be it silly comedy or cute moments (or doubled-down on things the writer very obviously stood behind such as distinct TineWat love language). There were quite some plot holes or cheap plot set-ups like the two club rooms being directly next to each other or Tine missing Wat super hard after like… a week of separation. There are still some glaring issues from season 1, if you want to nitpick.
But lets just be generous for now and overlook these for a sake of general entertainment.

Acting was good and i think the overall cast chemistry was improved in this series. My only complaint is that some of the characters became caricatures of themselves at some point but at the same time it was, again, probably necessary evil so the series could be so entertaining.

I hope Still2Gether will become a case-study for any upcoming series. Not in a way that i want to see a shitty s1 followed by a damage control special season ever again but because im sure there are many ways a filmographer can learn from success, fall and eventual redemption that was 2gether the series as a whole.

My rating is probably a bit too high but i unexpectedly enjoyed this bonus series and i appreciate the amount of thought that went into “saving” 2Gether as a series.

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It's everything you'd want in a 5-episode special; a mix of romance & comedy

Before I get into the specifics, you have to remember that this is a 5 episode special, and can't be interpreted in the same manner as a second season might've been.
*note: for the reason that this is a continuation of "2gether" it will be hard not to refer to it.*

Story: Rather than an actual sequel, "Still 2gether" is more of a chance to re-witness Sarawat, Tine & all of the other 2gether characters that were missed from the show. In regards to that, I think it lived up to it's expectations. It served its purpose as a romantic, sweet & comedic continuation, and I don't feel the need to over-analyze the story. Once again, critiquing the show as a stand-alone is quite hard, but in terms of the story & plot, it's quite sweet & cute :) It's not meant to be much of a brain-racker, and I don't think expecting a full-on 'plot dynamic' from solely 5 episodes would be doing it much justice.
But from I've seen, they executed this sooo nicely! There were so many nostalgic "2gether" moments in the first few episodes of "Still 2gether", and as the show progressed, the better it became! The finale was a perfect wrap to the tale of Sarawat & Tine - and everything weaved together no nicely in the end.
[a little cute spoiler: for anyone waiting for a kiss scene, you needn't to worry ;) ]

Acting/Cast: I think all the actors did a pretty spectacular job. What I loved about 'Still 2gether" is that the cast have definitely improved their acting :) They've embraced their character's roles and stick by it quite well. Considering the fact that this is Win's first role as an actor, he did a great job as playing his role as Tine! In my opinion, Bright who plays Sarawat's character did a really good job too! [despite knowing the other conflicting opinions on this matter]. Sarawat & Tine's chemistry has improved by a tenfold & they're so natural with one another. And I loved the supporting characters so much! I'm so glad Gunsmile is getting more recognition; and I loved his comedic character, Boss (who else is on board with the BossPear ship like me?) Mike & Toptap (Mantype), PhukongMil (FrankDrake), Gun (Green), Guy (Dim), Fong (Khaotung), JJ (Ohm) and all cast & crew members did a great job in doing all their characters justice.

Music: I'm not much of a music fanatic, but you can never go wrong with Scrubb's songs or the "Still 2gether" OST in that manner. It's so beautiful!

Overall: I'm giving this a 9 overall because it deserves to. Both "2gether" and "Still 2gether" have been such a fresh breath of air, and because this series aired during the pandemic - I'd say that it's been a sort of comfort; worldwide! It's gained such a large international fan base, and rightfully so. It's a sweet and cute continuation - and all I hope for is another opportunity to witness these characters *wink*

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Did not disappoint at all.

After having finished 2gether and absolutely loving it (I was one of the people who was actually not that disappointed by the lack of action) the expectations for this special were extremely high, and I was really unsure of whether or not it could live up to those expectations, since I usually don’t like second seasons or similar things for good Dramas, since most of the time the first season already delivered everything in itself and everything additional is not really necessary and doesn’t really add anything new. However, since the first season still left some points unsatisfied this Special definitely delivered.

The acting, same as in 2gether, was absolutely wonderful, especially on Bright’s part. I still find that Win’s acting seems a little over the top sometimes, but somehow it fits his character.
All the side characters were beautiful, as always. I may have even liked their performances a little more than I did in the first season.

Now story wise: since this is a special that is only a few episodes long, we can’t expect too much story to happen, so the plot of the show wasn’t really all that meaningful, however, it did a great job at giving us more insight into the main couples relationship, and it also did not fail to deliver those heart melting, at the verge of cringe, sweet moments that made me fall in love with the series in the first place (even without much action), in comparison to 2gether, the main couple did actually act like a couple, as compared to the bromance thing that was going on towards the end of 2gether. Funnily enough, since the first season was so sparse in skin-ship it actually felt kind of weird to see them engaging a little more at first.
I also loved how the side couples were further explored and built, since I really liked each one of them in the Series.
All in all this Special, for me, absolutely satisfied every open end or feeling of something missing the Series had left.
Another point I am happy about is that they let Tine be more proactive and actually partake in the relationship. To me 2gether seemed really one- sided , since Sarawat was always the one initiating, apologising, etc. Here the relationship seemed a lot more balanced.

If I had to PinPoint the points that made me not give it a full 10 it might be that there were some scenes that seemed a bit overly dramatic to me, giving the circumstances. Also that some of the plot just really didn’t speak all that much to me, but since it was all so short it didn’t really bother me too much.

So if you watched 2gether and loved it as much as I did, but were still unsatisfied with some points or just wanted to see more of all of the couples, definitely watch this special. The story isn’t all that compelling, but it does deliver those sweet moments, a little more action and ties up loose ends.

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This special was ok. But no more than that. It's quite forgettable. After the bad ending in 2gether my expectations were low, and I guess they did a good job for a special. Still, this series for me lacks the emotional connection, specially with the main couple. The plot is very messy and everything looks so forced, even the kiss. I don't mind that a series don't show kisses, the most important is the chemistry. What I didn't like about the kiss is that it's only there to satisfy the people who complained about that. Nothing more. There were no real emotions. During the first season they had so many beautiful and heartwarming scenes that could have benefited with a kiss, because it would have feel organic. Those kisses are the ones that have a real impact, when there's a context and a situation that is worthy. What I really liked about this season was the relationship between Man and Type. It's very healthy and cute. Even when Man is a funny guy, he's very thoughtful and a really good boyfriend. I hope we could see more relationships like that in BLs as a main couple.

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Poor representation, lackluster story

Representation: I'm disappointed that people including Sarawat, Man, and Dim (all gay men), called Tine, Phukong, and Green the wives - this is a regression from the last season and a persistant problem throughout the series. "Team Wives" never rebukes them. And it's obvious why the reverse (Sarawat and Dim being called the wives) hadn't happened - because they're perceived as tops/semes and Tine, Green, and Phukong the bottoms. The same director also directed Dark Blue Kiss, which also had the same issue. Surprisingly, he also directed He's Coming to Me, which was pretty much flawless in this department. Apart from this, I must commend the show for putting in effort in repping with decorations and clothing: there is a Call Me By Your Name poster on Tine and Sarawat's apartment wall; Sarawat wore a pride shirt in episode 2, etc. These are small things that LGBTQ people won't ever miss, so thank you. In episode 4, when Sarawat's friend from the music club talked to him (in a rather obvious PSA moment) about his being so open with his love, he said it was not about courage but about 2 people in love, and that it was up to the couple whether to show PDA or not. Well, he's wrong. It is very much about courage. Homophobia is very real, even in Thailand, especially when people still look at your relationship through heteronormative lenses, as shown by this very show itself. And this is the least of our problems. So don't try and whitewash the struggles of being gay to accommodate the delicate sensibilities of a portion of your audience. You don't have to highlight it but to erase it like so is to trivialize our struggles. Before we look at our preferences with regards to PDA, we must consider our safety, our livelihood, our social life, etc. For many, the fear is real. Like all other GMMTV shows, trans people are shown matter of fact although they play very limited roles.

Story: Apparently fans complained that Sarawat wouldn't leave Tine in the hospital with Mil when he had food poisoning and the director retconned and said Sarawat actually was there the whole night but left in the morning to change, before Tine woke up. While this is great, sadly, like the last season the story is still very lackluster. Compound this with how the show treats Tine, Phukong and Green, at episode 5, I no longer want to continue.

Acting: I'm not sure if the actor is the problem, or the director. Tine has an aversion to affection, an annoying trope in BL, and continues to wear a constant constipated expression when he's around Sarawat (seriously, he's a lot chipper with other characters). For example, when Tine was sad that Sarawat was leaving to practice, he just gave Sarawat a sad smile when Sarawat told him about the extremely sweet story where he searched for Tine everywhere and even applied to the university in hopes of meeting Tine again. Tine was pretty much expressionless. Every time (and this applies to the previous series as well) they kiss, Tine looks like a deer caught in the headlights even when he's the one who initiated the flirting. This is not something I expected from someone who's still in their honeymoon period. I'm not sure if the director want Tine and Sarawat to have contrast with Type and Man but I don't believe this is the way to do it. That said, Tine was great with the lonely scene by the pool.

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how was this even worse

at this point they are so awkward around each other like their uncomfortableness seeps into the performance and it's embarrassing to watch. i know there's a movie coming and i understand capitalism adores shit like this but i am honestly just begging them to stop. when i see gifs of them i start laughing. when i saw them kiss i started to laugh. i tried so hard to get through this and i couldn't. i was so embarrassed and it felt so fucking awkward so wholetime i[m like this is a fucking walking commercial in a very bad way.

and i think the major issue is the unnecessary time jump since no one believes these people have been living together for a fuckin year. how the hell have they not gotten it together yet? how the fuck truly how the fuck can them touching even be frickin awkward. the montages and everything don't help it is just drowning drowning drowning in being uncomfortable and ridiculous. i don't even know their personalities at this point and the actors are absolutely walking blank faces now.

now mike and toptap have gotten better and in thct (idk that other drama theyre in i aint watch) theyre even better and i'd looooooove to see more of them. and in the first round of the regular series they actually kiss. at first i was like this is stupid but they actually are working together and it is fun to watch them. this is a good example where people are not (seen as or as much as) conventionally attractive but they shine through the way that the main couple couldn't for several reasons. it begs the question on how many people even want to be actors but i digress

just embarrassing and cringe. oh and the storyline....dude 20 minutes away? after a year??? but also he refuses to be touched??? it hought it was two years but it's one so they are still in that hmoon phase yet it is unbearable to see them in the same room. you're adults, you live together, and have been together for a year and you cannot deal with being away from him for two weeks when it's a 20 minute drive. at first i thought it was funny since i'm not taking this seriously anymore but then you realize they want you to find it charming and that they're so in love and for everyone to have philosophical talks and moments as they long for each other but it is a waste of time. and from a technical standpoint i cannot for the life of me understand why they didnt put the sexuality conversation in the actual series at its running time. why are you doing it when it is set 2 years later? can someone edit their scripts for the love of christ?

and at least in the series they had their previous interactions and the set ups to go off of. i'm not sure how this is redeemed from the series (even though i don't think they ruined the series it just wasn't that great) when they are now acting like all their history doesn't matter and the world started yesterday? this universe is a damn mess and i jessss....

what the fuck? what the fuck?!?!? i am gonna torture myself by watching this movie arent i

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I guess its gotten better

To the positive point

1. The side couples

They are the best and the cutest. Especially the little brother and his boyfriend. I can wholeheartedly say they are the cutest and the best couple of this series. Their chemistry was cute and not at all forced.
Their dialogue made sense and their actions as well. Like one wanting to give up as he was not really getting the love back and the other really noticing that he needed to step up his game when they other retreated.
The way they transitioned from friends to boyfriends was subtle but really cute.
Would I have liked a kiss, yessss :) But here the storyline didnt really require one as they are just starting their relationship and they both seem quite shy. But the drawing in the end, Im dying too cute.
Also the other couple with the boyfriend who needed to leave for work.
Totally well done. Long distance is hard but doable if you trust each other.
Dim and I can't remember their names and their fight, was a bit unnecessary but I get that it was for comedic purposes.

To the negative points

1. The main couple

If one has read my review of the main series, you will know what I am gonna say here.
They just have nothing between them. It feels super weird and forced.
In the first 3 episodes they again feel more like friends than boyfriends.
Sarawat uses physical contact as threats and its not cute, its really cringe.
Like will you go to sleep or should I kiss you ? And followed up in the end by tine saying no no I will sleep.
Like since when is kissing your boyfriend in bed a threat.
It would be cute maybe in the beginning but after a year of being together it just seems cringe.
Also the whole grabbing boob. DIdnt think it was cute on the first season either. If tine doesnt want to be touched there and says no Sarawat should respect that ! And continually grabbing him and him flinching back is a bit painful to watch. As it doesnt seem like he is shy but it more seems like he is actually not willing.
Also the whole show starts out saying that they are out of the lovey phase. And I am like , Wait they were in one ever? Like did I miss that ? Did you skip that ? SO the actors dont have to act it ?
I realized that if the show wouldn't tell me that they are dating again and again and again. I wouldn't know. The highest of everything in the first 3 episodes is a snack kiss, which they pretend is a really big deal but why ? Everyone knows these two have been seeing each other, how is forcing them to snack kiss a big deal. Does this mean they never kiss or do anything in front of people. However they dont hold hands or cuddle at home either. They never really go on dates! Not one!
So again it feels like a close friendship and not a relationship.
What I did like were the two weeks they spend apart. Because thats were I suddenly started to see that both of them do have real acting talent and can act like they love someone.
The last two episodes got a bit better and there were like two cute moments but not enough to make me actually believe their feelings for each other.
So this is my first time to say this, I hope both actors can go on to bigger and better things, but I hope to god they dont do BL again. It doesn't feel natural and they dont feel comfortable in their roles.

2. The overuse of singing

We get Sarawat loves to sing for Tine but honestly it doesn't make a scene cute and it stops being special if they do it all the time.
In 5 episodes Sarawat was either singing for Tine or was preparing to sing for him. For his birthday, for their anniversary, etc.

3. The music and cheerleading club conflict

Just why ? I get this was more of the fight between the one side couple. But this conflict was just too weird. It could be solved by just the two club presidents sitting down together and working out a schedule.
Also it was so weird, because in the first season Tine always practiced cheerleading outside all the time. But suddenly for this conflict they go inside . Yeah no doesnt seem set up by a scriptwriter at all.

4. packing a hundred conflicts into 5 episodes

I would have liked if Tine and Sarawat had a real relationship conflict and not just that shallow stuff.
Like oh no negatives comments, I am gonna prove them wrong.
Sarawat jealous and doesn't trust Tine and spies on him.... ( Kind of unhealthy btw.)
Then oh thats solved lets go to the next small conflict and then to the next.
Them missing each other for two weeks was nice but come one two weeks and they are adults and not 14.
I get being in love but that for me seemed like such an exaggeration.
it would have been better had they been in a fight before then I would get the dramatic reaction but noooo.
Everything was fine and then a partner leaves for two weeks. I get missing but breaking down in front a doll that represents your bf and having your brother sleep over because you are so sad seemed like a bit much for me.


5. The kiss

Ok ok ok ok, I get i might seem like a complete hypocrite when I say this but I hated the kiss in the end.
But I have my reasons. All throughout the first and this season I have been waiting for a real kiss scene and not come on the cheek or almost kiss.
But why add at in at the end with no context and not special feeling behind it. Kind of felt like the director saw the criticism and they didnt wanna reshoot, so they just added that scene on to be like: see they did kiss once.
Like we got a hinted shower scene why not have them kiss there. Or at their anniversary ? But no that kiss just had no emanational impact.
It again felt forced, added on juts for the sake of having a kiss scene.
I rather would have not had one if it was like this.

Conclusion:

If you watched the first series, this will be better. But its not wroth watching the first series for . I hope someone makes a compilation for the my fav side couple because I am not retouching the entire first season just for them.
Btw I did think all the actors all talented.

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An awesome idea- I couldn't get enough of it

I honestly don't see why people are saying it shouldn't have been made. While, yes, it doesn't add anything into the original plot I believe it shows us aspects and sides of the characters that 2gether failed to show us, it also made up for some of the biggest flops in the original series such as that damned episode 12.
I also see the acting improving like A LOT A LOT and that makes me insanely happy, I loved seeing how Sarawat and Tine's life takes a twist and how that only brings them closer to each other, I also can't get enough of ManType, they are probably the cutest couple in the whole series.
Also, I'm glad they didn't continue with that brotherzone thing I almost broke the screen- But they also didn't give us much of Mil and Phukong.
Adding to that, I think BossPear is the cutest thing to ever be encountered everything about the couple is so cute- Heads up to the writers for adding them
As for the ost, I think they did an AMAZING JOB with the music.. I can't believe we lived to listen to such amazing songs.
I don't believe 2gether should have a proper second season after this, They gave us all we wanted and more, I honestly am still in disbelief with the ending scene.
I would 100% recommend this to anyone

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