Nascidos de Novo (2020)

Vou escrever na minha língua, porque tenho muito para escrever.
Bom, esse drama já começou bem doido, as linhas eram super cringe e os dois primeiros episódios que se passam nos anos 80 tem um problema de edição. Tem um flashback de 4 anos, mas não mostram direito onde voltam para o ano em questão - 1988.
Nesse período, antes de morrer, cada um fez uma promessa:
Gong Ji Cheul - Dar um coração para Ha Eun
Cha Hyun Bin - Proteger a Ha Eun com sua vida
Ha Eun - Amar para toda eternidade Cha Hyung Bin

Até aí tudo bem, os problemas no script realmente começaram quando fomos pros tempos atuais. Primeiro, que a autora quis confundir a gente o tempo todo, a morte dos 3 que a gente tinha acabado de ver não foi exatamente desse jeito e muitos questionaram se a alma dos protagonistas tinham trocado.
Depois a autora construiu uma narrativa de:
Amor obsessivo/unilateral por parte do Jong Beum (antes Gong Ji Cheul)
Amor de forma espontânea em relação a Sa Bin (antes Ha Eun) e o Soo Hyuk ( antes Cha Hyung Bin)

Teve toda a questão da Sa Bin só ter deja vus com o Hyun Bin, voltar a ver a cor vermelha. E o Soo Hyuk chega inclusive a ver a Sa Bin vestida de noiva.
O plot do mistério do que tinha acontecido nos anos 80 estava cada vez mais doido. A cada flashback a gente tinha uma nova informação e elas meio que não se encaixavam. Tipo, até hoje eu não sei muito bem como o GJC sobreviveu ao tiro na cabeça ou o porquê fizeram aquele ritual com o Hyung Bin.
O novo caso do guarda chuvas amarelo - eu esperava bem mais.
Depois do episódio 10 (ou 20), a roteirista aloprou e parece que jogou muitas coisas que aconteceram antes no ralo pra justificar o que aconteceu depois daí. A passagem de tempo só foi feita para o Jong Beum se curar e não fez muito sentido. Todos os assassinos foram presos de jeito ridículos, as cenas no tribunal foram ruins. tudo (exceto a interpretação que sim, esse é o único aspecto bom dessa parte) foram terminadas de forma desleixadas.
Sobre a parte do romance, bom decepcionante, porque a protagonista dizia que gostava de um, mas agia como se fosse a mãe do outro perdoando tudo, tudo mesmo - stalker, tentativa de assassinato.
A escritora fez muita gente pegar uma raiva enorme da Sa Bin. E eu acho que não deveriam ter resolvido o triângulo amoroso no último capítulo.
E eu tinha muitas perguntas, criei altas teorias, mas tudo simplesmente foi finalizado com coincidências criadas para solucionar a história, sem nenhuma preocupação com coerência.

Enfim, pontos positivos, a OST é bem boa e os atores realmente tiraram leite de pedra, tem muitas cenas em que eles deram um show, principalmente o Lee Soo Hyuk e o Jang Ki Young,

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É o segundo dorama que vejo que cita o livro Morro dos ventos uivantes, mas diferente do outro este não é só uma citação, ele foi escrito inspirado nele e sendo que, o primeiro episódio leva o nome de Heathcliff.

Eu amei como as cores foram usadas, como quando se trata dos três sempre tinha vermelho, mas os casos de assassinato são amarelo como os guarda-chuvas, também tiveram detalhes pequenos como cabelo do Soo Hyuk. E o que dizer da atuação de Lee Soo Hyuk e Jang Ki Yong? As diferenças de expressões e trejeitos entre passado e presente foram perfeitas, o último nos primeiros episódios me lembrou Edward mãos de tesoura, sabe? Aqueles diálogos com olhar sem palavras que mesmo simples diz tudo.

Confesso que não suportei a Sa Bin, por mim, ela tem Síndrome de Empatia, pois não é possível aceitar tão fácil certas coisas vendo todos os dias corpos em sua mesa de trabalho, mesmo sabendo por si mesma fatos assustadores de alguém e sem contar sua indecisão irritante.

Sinceramente esperava desfechos diferentes para vários momentos e de certa forma o rumo diferente a partir do 19/20 que me surpreendeu, e acho que teria sido legal um presente trocado, também me incomodou como nos último capítulos o roteiro mudou de uma forma que várias afirmações da principal pareciam palavras ao vento. Tudo que ela disse em ambas as vidas fora por água abaixo com suas ações do final. Outra coisa os casos do guarda-chuva amarelos foram resolvidos muito rápido de certa forma.

Por fim tenho que afirmar que todos os personagens não são sãs, sério. O final não foi do meu agrado, nem é por ship, por que não queria que nenhum dos lados do triângulo desse certo. Era tudo muito trágico para isso. A sensação não foi confortável, sendo assim, só darei oito estrelas porque para mim mesmo com ressalvas, eu gostei do enredo e me prendeu até certo ponto do dorama, mas o que não caiu bem foi o final.

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Quando e comecei esse dorama, achava que a prota ia ficar com o assassino afinal era o kiyong e o soohyuk sempre pega papeis onde ele é o second lead. Então no episódio 2, a haeun fala "eu sempre vou te encontrar esteja você vivo ou morto... eu prometo amar o hyungbin e só ele" aí eu comecei a achar que ela ia ficar com o soohyuk e no decorrer dos episódios foi isso que foi mostrado, então depois que o JB leva um tiro, a prota começou a falar que tava confusa e que o coração dela doia pelo JB e ainda assim quando ele beija ela no ep 27, ela fala que embora o coração dela doa por ele ela ia acabar voltando pro soohyuk e aí me vem o penúltimo ep onde ela ouve que o JB só matou a mulher lá pra dar o coração pra ela e ela age como se ele fosse o herói dela sendo que no ep 2 ela falou que isso não era justificativa pra matar alguém? É serio que os escritores usaram isso pra justificar o amor dela por ele? E se o roteiro não tava ruim o suficiente, tiram a única coisa que fazia sentido (o amor dela pelo hyungbin) e fazem a SB escolher o JB ja que é por ele que o coração dela doia? What? Minha amiga, coração doi também quando se vê um cachorros de rua, um mendigo ou uma pessoa passando fome afinal as pessoas normais sentem empatia e ficam com pena e segundo o dicionário pena é um sentimento "em que há sofrimento, padecimento, angústia, dor". Como é que os roteiristas querem fazer acreditar que isso era amor sendo que a sabin nunca demonstrou mais que pena e amizade pelo JB? Esse final não foi um plot twist foi uma desonestidade sem tamanha. E ainda chutaram cachorro morto enfiando aquela cena da SB e JB na old future (onde teve a maioria das cenas românticas dela e do SH) e me colocam o SH do lado de fora (fazendo uma alusão a cena do começo onde o JC é que ficava espiando) sendo que a sabin já tinha falado pra ele que escolhia o JB, então qual é a necessidade de uma cena dessa???? E pra coroar esse monte de lixo, matam o JB ?. Parabéns, born again entra pra historia como um dos piores doramas já feito senão o pior.

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Eu comecei gostando bastante da série, confesso que de inicio me prendeu. Só que foi ficando algumas pontas soltas, por exemplo faltou explicar como os tres personagens foram retirados do gelo, em que circunstanias Gong Ji foia a julgamento e condenado a morte, não foi mostrado. Faltou explicar melhor as mortes de Cha Hyung e Ha Eun. Odiei o final, como ela jurou na igreja que o amaria até a eternidade e que ele seria o unico amor da vida dela, de repente se apaixona pelo outro de apesar de ama-la tambem e ter sido injustiçado na vida passada, ainda assim cometeu dois crimes. Acho que escritora se perdeu bastante nesse final, o amor de CH e HE, não poderia ser deixado de lado,

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The story started out in a slow pace but eventually picked up its pace after a few episodes. I love this kdrama! It has so many twist and turns in the storyline that keep you guessing. The story itself is riveting! It's a fusion of fantasy, melodrama, mystery, and romance. You'll feel different emotions as you go along. =) I love so many parts of the story--most notably was how Jeong Bum was vindicated after the mystery which labelled him as the serial killer in past life, was finally unraveled in the present life. =)

The last scene initially got me stumped, 'coz it shows Jeong Bum lying in the hospital bed as Sa Bin begins to show him stuff in an attempt to wake him up. But after re-watching the last few scenes, I was able to discern it. =) The last scene (i.e. hospital) is like a flashback of the current scene wherein you find Jeong Bum in Sa Bin's bookstore reading a book and suddenly recovers his memory by recognizing Sa Bin from the window and uttering her name. So that flashback shows that he did undergo a successful surgery but temporarily lost his memory. Hence, the final scene is Jeong Bum recovers his memory in the bookstore and utters Sa Bin's name. =)

I love the ending--in her past life, she ended up with Detective Cha then with her present life, she ended up with Jeong Bum whose name has been cleared as the serial killer in the past life. =)

Pls. give this kdrama a chance! Don't be daunted by the negative reviews. =)

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Born again started as a crime thriller and ended up as a revenge story. I stopped watching it at the middle when I felt like there will be no redemption story and there will only be past repeats itself. However, the story-telling changed right after I stopped watching it. So, I continued watching it out of curiosity.

I like all the redemption arcs. KSH becomes a lawyer for people wrongly accused for murders. He apologized for all the wrong doings before. CJB becomes a human and not a monster. This is with the help of JSB. His story kinda reminds me of Joker film (2019). In which, a mentally-ill man was misunderstood and was judged by the society. Only, in this kdrama, there is 1 person (or 2) who tried to understand him and also loved him. Thus, the proper ending for him. (Because you know, in the Joker film, if only Joker had that 1 person who tried to understand him, he would’ve not snapped and became batman’s ultimate villain.)

As for JSB, the character was annoying and hate-able for many. I also felt the same way as I watched the series. She cannot make up her mind between the two men. But, I remember this is a LOVE TRIANGLE. A story in which a character will be confused who he/she likes between two other characters.

On the 1980’s story, Ha Eun was clearly in love with Hyung Bin. This love made her confused of JSB’s feelings with KSH in the present because, they are reincarnation of the two lovers. In the present, JSB was drawn with CJB’s personality. He was broken and misunderstood and JSB empathized with him. These made her confused between the two men. Once, she was able to separate her feelings in the past from the present, she sorted out her feelings and chose CJB.

In the end, the story has a very good premise but, the writers was not able to follow up on it. I also think the story will be a better without the LOVE TRIANGLE arc it had. This made watchers hate the show. It has good osts. Is it rewatch-able? Depends. if you want to go back to digest each scene.

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A drama that will give you a roller coaster ride

This is just my personal opinion.. but I completely love and drown to the story. No matter how many people hate or dissappointed with the story line, disagree with the way the production team change the script writer, or many people said they stop watching it in the middle of the story.. but I totally want to give a standing applause for the drama production team for giving me a rollercoaster ride in every episode. Pardon me if this review is long.. but the drama deserves another perspective also.

Here some reasons why I recommend this drama:

1. Outstanding acting. No doubt the 3 main leads are awesome! You’ll find out that each of them can play 2 different characters very well. It’s not easy but they are successfully convey the emotion, habit, eye sight, movement. They all beautiful and perfect to be chosen for each character.

2. I believe that Love is an emotional thing. It’s beyond your logic. So do not blame how the story will bring you to an unexpected ending. Again... love is not something that make sense sometimes. I can understand Sa Bin’s choice at the end. Try to see the big picture.. do not focus on our personal taste about the male lead. I truly love these 2 male leads.. and whoever she will be end up with, the guy is deserve it. Each of them are not perfect.. each of them have secrets and lies. They have their own big mistake. But there’s 1 thing that is similar.. it is their willingness to sacrifice everything for love.

3. This story will make you fall in love with each male lead, and headache, heartache at the same time. LOL. It contains a lot of bitter facts and unfair situationalso.
It shows you the love-hate relationship between main leads. It surely can give you pain when you tried to understand each character’s secrets and lies.
If you put your shoes in each character.. yes, they are surrounded with criminals, stalker or psychopat. But you will also find a passionate, bittersweet and possesive love as well.

Last but not least... I don’t think it is a romantic comedy story... It is a crime thriller yet bloody romantic. It’s a fantasy about reincarnation and how the ill fate bring all of them get entangled. So do not expect everything will be perfect, beautiful with unicorn and rainbow things. Hang on.. and get ready to feel the sensation of rollercoaster ride like me. Haha..

No matter what... there will be people in the story who will be hurted and feel unfair. But I finally understand that the definition of “fate” itself was totally wrong for Hyunbin and Haeun. If Hyunbin can be more honest back then about how he was accidentally killed her parents.. and she can accept it.. then they can continue the journey as couple in the next life.
But actually Hyunbin is no better than Jichul who have his own bitter memories and hurtful secret to be known by the girl. If Jichul ever tried to murder someone for the girl he loved, then Hyunbin is actually do the same in the next life when he shoot Jongbum’s head, thinking it is necessary to save the girl.

I don’t think the girl keep changing her own minds or 2 timing about her feeling. She just confuse and it make sense after all, because the 2 male leads gave her the same big and crazy love, but each of them show it in different ways with different definition of true love. At the end.. each male lead willing to suffer and sacrife everything for the female lead happiness.. no matter who will be chosen.

At first.. I thought the ideal story is for Sabin and Sohyuk to be together after the romeo and juliet scene in the past and how they meet again and giving us a playing hard to get moment in the next life. But.. the more the story is continue... the more I asked myself.. “have you ever think about how much Jichul or Jongbum suffering and sacrifice for her.. It is an unconditional, egois, dominant, loyal, passionate and uncontrollably romance.” It’s not crazy. He just starving to find love and family.

Love is something that will not always give you heartbeats but also heartache.
So the one who made the same missunderstanding, clumsy choices, and wrong judgement about the criminals (based on his own logic) is Hyunbin and Soohyuk. Meanwhile the one who trust her intuition and keep struggling to trust her feeling is Haeun and Sabin.
However the one who was being humiliated, feel rejected, under bad timing and get all the blame is Jichul and Jongbum. And he decide to continue his journey to wait, dedicating his whole life for the girl and at the end... still sacrifice to give his heart (life) for the girl. I pity him... but the ending is really give him a sign of a good path.

This story reminds me with a K-drama entitled “Doctor Stranger” (they have the same female lead as well), from the story, music & songs, until the tragic side of the story kinda give you the typical feeling. The plot is quite complicated, and heavy but very detail... and the cinematography is awesome.

Anyway.. all of this is just my personal thought. I hope you can at least trying to watch it until the end before make a judgement. But again... this story is successfully influence our heart. I hope I can see another collaboration with the same casts in different drama ;)
Well... Jongbum won the heart of Sabin, but Soohyuk won the heart of all of us as the audience as well ~<3

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I don't know why people had such a problem with this show. It had a strong emotional pull that kept you engaged. The FL was confronted with a man that wronged everyone and a man that was wronged by everyone. Her devotion to the first man was out of ignorance. When realizing the wrong that was perpetuated on the other man and initiated by her own fiance the realization of who these two men really were rocked her reality. Yes, there was a bit of confusion at times, but it cleared up as revelations unfolded later. All three main leads were fabulous. The main lead's pure heart and love for justice drew her to face what she really wanted in a man.

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Worth Watching Drama

I think this is the fastest reicarnation I have ever seen in any drama, it only took 30 years but it is still interesting for me. I do like drama with some that kind of fantasy.

I never like Hyung Bin or Soo Hyuk.. he just too prejudice, and he keep provoking Jong Bum that he is the criminal. I never ship Soo Hyuk with Jan Bin, I really really like Ji Chul / Jong Bum, he is really just a poor kid,, especially Ji Chul, his mind is corrupted by his murders father, and he being abusive since he was little, all he wants to help Ha Eun because he love her even in his own way, he meant well. He is still a nice person. I also don't really like Ha Eun because she doesn't not even give Ji Chul a chance to talk but I do like Jan Bin (Ha Eun reincarnation), she is more open, straightforward and understanding, she gives Jong Bum a chance and she listen and believe in him even throughout the rumor about him being a murderer at age 15.

At first, I don't know who will be the main actor, the one Jan Bin will choose at the end, but I really shipped her with Jong Bum. I don't know why I just don't like Soo Hyuk, he was quite corrupted prosecutor, frame the criminal just to get them behind the bars without a proper investigation and he just to prejudice! just because Jong Bum was at the criminal scene doesn't mean he is the culprit. The real psychopath are smart, they don't get caught easily because they are melticulous, they will never get caught easily on cctv and as a prosecutor, he did an abrupt decision.

I first start to notice Jang Ki Young in Go back couple, he as nam gil, as a second lead. Oh, how I have such second lead syndrome watching that drama, I really really really like him but I know he will never end up together with Jang Nara because she already have a child together with his husband before.. and when I watch this drama, oh please don't give me that second lead syndrome again. I couldn't bear to see that again. But luckily, it turns out well even though the ending quite abrupt for me.. But it satisfies me enough to see him get together with Jan Bin.

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It wasn’t that bad actually it was pretty good and I recommend it.

This is to convince you that the drama is good but could’ve been perfect
First of all, all the cast fit the role they were given but i found Jin Se Yeon’s character kinda annoying as she kept hugging and embracing the main guy when she was engage with the second lead, kinda annoyed at how she couldn’t choose one and hold onto them both causing all three of them to get hurt and i kinda didnt like her beliefs, in one of the episodes somewhere when she was in the car with second lead she said it doesnt matter if a criminal gets let free and she believes he can change, that annoyed me as she seems to not care about people’s death which i know isn’t true bc in the earlier episode she apparently saved someone. Ugh i dont know her character just seemed flawed, her character here kinda reminds me of her character in doctor stranger, i dont like it.

The thing i liked the most from this drama was jang ki yong’s character, i liked how his character seemed psychopath but you somewhat will want to hug him as he seems to be getting blamed on, like his characters were hella precious. He’s the main guy but yet most of the times the second lead seemed more of a main guy than the actually main guy. It reminds me of this phrase ‘this is supposed to be my drama/ I dreamed this drama/dream’

I’m not sure if he died at the end or not but i think he did, at the last scene the female lead was crying while looking at the main guy (I think that was the main guy) but before that scene she was with the main guy at Old Future smiling.

Please give this drama a chance (; it could’ve been perfect there was only a few flaws and annoying things in this drama

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I loved this drama. I find it so sad and telling that so many people didn't. I'm sorry that it's so hard to follow for some people. Perhaps it shows the dismal literary education given in public schools nowadays...
As another person said, this tale is reminiscent of the Bronte sisters - as of course the writers throw in viewers' faces through out LOL I wonder how many of those watching EVER read Wuthering Heights?
At any rate, those pretending our heroine didn't grow weren't paying attention. She was misled from the very beginning about the characters of both these men, which led to her making the original choices she did. Her original self never questioned her perception of reality, dying without truly understanding either man.
I have to interject here that I think the 1980s version of our detective, despite what we find out in the last episode, was basically a good, decent man who would have been horrified by his reincarnated self's actions. In fact, when that prosecutor decides to redeem himself, I think it's because he did get his memories of his previous incarnation back. I had been totally in sympathy with our 1980s detective, but when he reappeared as that self-righteous prosecutor, so willing to bend the rules and manufacture evidence just because HE had decided someone was guilty? Oh, no. Hated him and even wondered if HE was the reincarnation of the supposed serial killer.
Speaking of that tortured soul of a '2nd lead' ? Well, HE had been led around by the nose by that father of his! I'd been convinced that he'd hallucinated his father, at first - that he'd killed his abusive father & then developed 2 personalities. I kept that idea for at least a third of the drama because the writers did a very good job of leading us down that rabbit hole! Another red herring - at first it seemed as if our heroine had gotten the heart OF that 'murderer'.
Now, our leading lady is not as quick to judge as her previous self. She does think about things more thoroughly, without accepting everything at face value. She lets herself get drawn in by our prosecutor, but she hasn't a clue about his real character in the present. With our reincarnated 'murderer', however, she does gradually find out what he's like - she's drawn to him because she feels pain & pity every time she sees him.
Those people whining about 'stalker stalker' - BOTH these guys 'stalked' this woman, you know. Also, it was out of fear for her safety, not out of some 'stalker perversion'. But some people simply fail to see nuances at all.
Bottom line, the entire drama shows how the main female lead slowly figures out the TRUE characters of both these men, and also which one cares deepest for her, and also which one SHE truly cares most for! I found this journey to be somewhat hard to follow at times, and some questions remain unanswered (our detective from the 1980s didn't die from being knifed - those guys in black suits came & dragged him off somewhere, & bashed his head in with a rock - this NEVER gets addressed properly). Also the whole 'switching of the artificial insemination donor' is just brushed off a bit too easily.
However, I did indeed like the ending - found it satisfying. Our reincarnated heroine put her past behind her, knowing that she'd not been fully informed in that life, and faced the future with the man who truly loved her enough to die for her (while giving her to his rival). That's just soul-fulfilling.

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This contains all kinds of spoilers...

It has been a while since I wrote a review but i thought I should since this drama is getting such bad ones.

The story is well done. There are a few flaws but overall it connects everyone and everything well. If people are mad about who the FL ends up with, then I'm not sure we are seeing the drama from the same perspective.

Cha Hyung Bin helps set up Gong Ji Chul as a serial killer just because that is what he believes and NOT because of any real evidence. One murder does not make a serial killer. Who really cares that Ji Chul who was habitually mistreated kills a woman that has killed a child in his misguided attempt to save the one person who was kind to him? I don't. It seems justified to me.
Jung Ha Eun is who pisses me off. WTH? She doesn't even try to see the truth and betrays Ji Chul in the most hurtful way by calling him an animal. She is blindly in love with a man that is blinded by his own bias against Ji Chul. Hyung Bin is a know it all trying to act all righteous.

Then in the reincarnation Kim Soo Hyuk is no better. He's doing the same thing with more power. Setting people up based on his belief. The writer tries to pull it off as righteous judgment but it is just plain wrong.
Then we have Chun Jong Bum who is again misunderstood and mistreated. What a messed up family. Still he does the best he can, but Soo Hyuk tries to set him up again. Then Soo Hyuk friggin' shoots him in the head with no consequences. What kind of BS is that?
It is ridiculous to me that people see Chun Jong Bum/Gong Ji Chul as the bad guy and Kim Soo Hyuk/Cha Hyung Bin as the good guy. They both have depths to their characters and there is a bit of grey area in both but I feel Jong Bum is a way better person than Soo Hyuk.
At least in the reincarnation Jung So Bin tries harder to see the truth and finally sees both men for who they are in this life time as well as the previous one.
Personally I feel like she didn't deserve Jong Bum or Ji Chul.

The rest of the enter twining characters made it interesting.

All of the acting was good. Those boys did a really good job.

The music is good.

No reason to watch it again.

I recommend this drama. It is very entertaining and makes you think.

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