Fui levada para este drama pelos vários comentários desagradáveis que ouvi: eu não assisto, eu não gostei, foram alguns dos comentários que ouvi. Nunca tinha assistido um drama tailandês e nunca tinha assistido nenhum do estilo BL, então fui buscá-lo para formar minha própria opinião sobre o gênero e sobre o drama. Feliz decisão foi a minha, e que bom que somos diferentes, temos opiniões diferentes uns dos outros, e que maturidade também esta relacionada a respeito as diferenças. Inconscientemente parei todos os dramas, que estava assistindo e maratonei como louca, apaixonada, uma pessoa apaixonada por vezes é inconsequente e eu não queria cometer esta falha levada pela emoção, então pela primeira vez assisti o mesmo drama duas sem intervalo, então resolvi escrever a resenha, passemos então ao drama.
A produção foi bem realizada, nada surpreendente, nem exagerado, externas bem feitas, cenas noturnas de qualidade, a continuidade sem falhas, cenários e figurinos são modestos e contemporâneos, e o principal, ajustados a história. Aah e a história?! A história é bonita e simples, falando de escolhas, de medo, de confiança e de amor, bem contada, até os produtos patrocinadores são inseridos sutilmente e lembrados sempre, mas sem prejuízo de continuidade ou rítmo, a história é ajustada ao que se quer, com foco nos personagens principais, as passagens de tempo são poucas e harmônicas, com uma velocidade gostosa de se acompanhar, todos os personagens secundários são espectadores entram e saem após cumprirem seu papel no fortalecimento da história central.
Quanto as atuações, um ou outro ator secundário não atuou muito bem, mas pouco tira o brilho da atuação dos protagonistas, e destes falarei com tranquilidade, maravilhosos, jovens talentosos, atuações espetaculares, expressões, olhares. O desenvolvimento da história favorece a mudança de comportamento dos protagonistas, percebida até na impostação das vozes dos atores, excelentes.
Sobre a OST... na realidade, as músicas em si são personagens da história, e personagens importantes, fiquei por vezes me perguntando se a história foi construída pelas músicas ou se as músicas foram inseridas na história, a começar pelo Título do drama. Sobre a OST, a conclusão é que tamanha a integração no drama entre a OST e a história, que esta última apresenta nuances de um musical, uma homenagem a uma banda tailandesa (Scrubb) de 20 anos de história, que ocorreu justamente no ano em que esta banda passa a ser independente, com músicas de melodia envolvente, letras fáceis, mas cheias de sentimento e profundidade que falam de amor e cumplicidade.
Sintetizo dizendo que 2gether: The Series é uma grande celebração, celebração a uma banda, celebração a música, celebração as escolhas, celebração aos encontros, celebração ao amor e celebração aos incômodos que podem mudar as histórias de duas vidas, promover mudanças e reescrever novas e belas histórias, sem culpas, sem pesos, sem arrependimentos, apenas histórias diferentes e bonitas.
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2brothers
2gether é uma das series que atiça briga em qualquer fujoshi ne? incrível, amg ninguém come mais essa mentira de que ''pra demonstrar amor não precisa beijar não'' plmdds, tu acha mesmo que não é contraditório tu aplaudir coisa de omegaverse e dar desculpa pra essa serie? se o seme não estava pronto pra beijar outro cara, poderia ter ido fazer drama sem ser bl ne? 2gether não é bl e 2gether fã não é artista, a serie tem vários alívios cômicos que te fazem rir mas a historia e o roteiro em si são ruins, a atuação do seme é ruim, o uke é bom atuando mas eu esperava mais. Digamos que existisse um mundo paralelo onde gays namoram, moram juntos e não se beijam, ok, mas não dava pra compensar com uma atuação boa o suficiente pra que demonstrassem que ao menos se gostam? eu não sei sobre o backstage ou a vida pessoal dos atores mas espero que ao menos nos próximos bls que fizerem possam se esforçar um pouco mais pra entregar algo bom. a ost é boa.Esta resenha foi útil para você?
2gether não merecia tanta review injusta.
Acho que as pessoas perderam um pouco o ponto em assistir uma série pelo que ela é e não por suas próprias expectativas.Sim, a produtora vendeu o drama com uma ideia e entregou outra, mas não quer dizer que seja ruim. Pelo contrário, 2gether foi um dos bls mais interessantes e mais realistas que já assisti e com certeza é muito mais do que diz a sinopse.
Uma simples história de descobrimento entre dois rapazes no início da juventude adulta que se veem em seu primeiro relacionamento significativo e precisam aprender a lidar com as mudanças do novo.
Sarawat um garoto introspectivo que não percebe o valor que tem apesar de ser muito aclamado por todos, é apaixonado por cada molécula de Tine e tudo que ele representa.
Já Tine, é um garoto cheio de vida, mas muito acostumado em viver para os outros, sempre disponível e dedicado aos amigos, a família e ao rígido irmão. Passou por vários relacionamentos em que também assumia esse papel responsável e por isso, carrega uma grande síndrome do impostor.
Quando se percebe sendo amado e cuidado pela primeira vez por Sarawat, ele não se vê como bom o bastante para tal e a história é sobre como ambos vão aprender a superar suas próprias limitações e seguirem juntos, por isso “2gether”, só a wordplay do nome já diz muito sobre a história e o motivo pelo qual não se desenvolveram muito os personagens secundários - que é uma das maiores críticas que eu vi do público geral ao drama.
Se você está pensando em assistir, não vá com expectativas pré impostas e assista a série pelo que ela é. Se procura por um simples romance clichê ou uma história cheio de pegação gay e festa, seu lugar não é aqui.
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IGNORE AS OUTRAS RESENHAS COM NOTAS BAIXAS
É sério, eu fiquei chocada com a quantidade de notas baixas que esse bl recebeu, é tão injusto porque a história é tão legal, a maioria que deram notas baixas são fetichistas nojentas que esperava algo mais quente nessa história, mas não entenderam que era apenas uma história leve e fácil de assistir, eu sei que essa história teve pequenos problemas que poderia não existir, mas é tão comum ter desentendimentos entre casais na maioria das histórias que eu já estou acostumada, mas nesse BL foi rápida a reconciliação.Não sou muito fã de BL, mas esse com certeza vai ser o meu favorito por muitos e muitos anos ^-^
Ps: faltaram mais beijos? Sim, mas surtei com qualquer aproximação deles então tudo bem rsrs
Ps: os casais secundários são legais, mas só isso mesmo.
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Muito decepcionada, deixo o meu alerta: fuja e não olhe para trás!
Escrevo essa resenha como um alerta para quem está começando a se aventurar no mundo dos BL ou já está aqui a mais tempo, mas não caiu ainda nessa armadilha que é 2gether. O plot da história é interessante e a história num geral é bacana, mas o desenvolvimento do casal é muito ruim. E explico o motivo. Primeiro preciso dizer que respeito imensamente toda a produção e os atores, mas é muito complicado ver em cena atores que estão claramente desconfortáveis e infelizes com os papéis que estão fazendo. Os meninos principais claramente odiaram fazer um BL, percebemos isso pois o casal principal não tem química nenhuma, não tem afeto, não tem carinho um pelo outro, eles no máximo, parecem amigos que passaram por uma situação confusa e agora convivem com esse estranhamento. E isso não é atoa, na primeira oportunidade que puderam, ambos se afastaram do mundo do BL e fingem que nunca existiu. Então por isso, eu não recomendo. Você terá frustração e chateação ao invés de se envolver com uma história de romance. A única coisa positiva da série são os atores secundários, felizmente, muitos deles continuam nos BL e ganharam muito destaque desde então (vide meu amor todinho Khaotung) e estão bem felizes atuando, então o que posso dizer é que a única coisa positiva de 2gether foi ter dado uma oportunidade a alguns atores jovens de conquistarem seus lugares ao sol. De resto, sinceramente, se você gosta de BL onde sente borboletas no estômago pelo amor que vê na tela (e eu to falando do romance, não to falando de pegação ou coisa do tipo, pois um BL nem precisa disso para trazer bons sentimentos se o casal demonstra afeto), de verdade, fuja de 2gether. O mais rápido que puder.Esta resenha foi útil para você?
2The first few episodes seemed to deliver on the promise. In my rush to judgement on MDL I even posted an early rating of 9.5, in part because I wanted other BL fans to know that this was worth a look.
The series started out by exclusively taking Tine's POV, allowing Sarawat to develop as a character who was at times funny, charming, prickly, seductive, and above all, unpredictable. It was mainly because of Sarawat's interactions with Tine that the first few episodes of '2gether' were so enjoyable.
Then, about halfway through, '2gether' took a wrong turn and never found its way back. Around this time in the series Sarawat and Tine finally became boyfriends, and along with that the two boys took the momentous step of moving in together -- sharing an apartment, a bedroom, and (of course) a bed.
Now, the definition of 'boyfriend' can vary from person to person and even across different cultures, but for most of modern civilization, when two people are romantically involved to the point of living together, certain assumptions apply. One of those is that the relationship has evolved to the point of physical intimacy.
Once Sarawat and Tine had advanced past the flirting stage and become a couple, this became '2gether's' biggest problem. From that point on, one detail after another clashed with the everyday experiences of everyday people. While cohabitating, the boys would share the bed, but they slept fully clothed and never cuddled. They would stand together romantically under a starry night sky and not put their arms around each other or hold hands. They would comfort each other with words but not with a warm embrace. And a kiss, even a quick peck on the lips? Not happening.
The bottom line was that despite being two college-age guys in a m/m relationship, Sarawat and Tine showed no signs of sexual attraction. In fact any physical contact between them came off as awkward and uncomfortable. Somehow, whether at the behest of GMMTV, the director, the actors, or some element unknown, the decision had been made that despite Sarawat and Tine's boyfriend status and shared living arrangement, there would be virtually no displays of affection on-screen.
It was a wacky decision, and it showed in the final product. Time and again, a scene between the two guys would work its way to a point where the mood was clearly set for a moment of physical affection (whether it be an arm around the waist, a held hand, a tender hug, or a kiss), and '2gether' would veer away at the last second, often resorting to a substitute gesture that was more suited to best buds or actual sibling brothers. The substitute most frequently used was a pat on the head from Sarawat to Tine (which with each occurrence looked more and more condescending), but sometimes they didn't bother with any substitute at all. A scene would just end.
This is simply not how real boyfriends interact, and I think it's safe to say that everyone knows it, even adamant supporters of the series who have defended it for its 'purity' (as though the purpose of '2gether' was to depict a divine love unblemished by anything as sordid as hand-holding.) When a work of fiction deviates from commonly perceived reality without first establishing a believable reason for doing so, viewers get confused. When it happens over and over without explanation, viewers get frustrated.
What bothered me personally was that I sensed an agenda at play. I grew disillusioned, and found I was now watching each episode mainly to see how they'd keep screwing with reality. Along the way I noticed that Sarawat wasn't so endearing anymore, and Tine had become a paranoid bundle of nerves who forgot how to smile. The joy I found in their relationship -- and in the series -- was in ashes. When the final episode approached and the script deployed the trusty "ex-girlfriend who's still in love" trope to stir up some drama, the result just lay there like the stupid and insulting tactic that it was. You can't revive a patient who's already dead in the ICU.
By this time I'd finished mourning the loss of what '2gether' had started out to be, moved past my anger and resentment, and settled into amusement. I looked back on how much I'd anticipated the series and laughed at how I'd been fooled. This was a production presumably written and directed by experienced professionals who are familiar with the BL genre. It was mind-boggling how they'd squandered the fantastic beginning and ended up with something so phony and awkward. For me the plot had gone completely off the rails, so whatever story the series was trying to tell didn't matter anymore. What I became most curious about each week was how they'd finally pull this mess into the station, and what kind of shape it would be in when they did it.
And the way they ended it, of course, was with the high-five between Sarawat and Tine that has already gained near-legend status. I must admit that this was where the series, which had already established itself as a mockery of BL, proved it could still surprise me. It was as though the production team had gotten together to brainstorm and find a way for '2gether' to deliver a final, unmistakable "F U" to fans of the BL genre -- a gesture guaranteed to become the ultimate meme.
In this I think they succeeded, but it makes me fearful over what GMMTV will do with their future BL productions.
ACTING
In general I think the actors did a fine job with the script and the direction they were given.
Win's work as Tine deserves a lot of praise since he had no prior acting experience, whereas almost all of the rest of the cast did. His first foray into a series was a tremendous success for him personally and promises great things for his future career.
Regarding Bright, it's hard to tell if Sarawat's detachment and wooden affect was a result of Bright's inability to act or the fault of the director. Given the way the entire second half of the series was botched by the director, it wouldn't be a stretch to blame him for Bright's performance, at least in part.
That said, I get the sense that Bright did not enjoy being in a BL series. He was smart to agree to it because it provided the perfect target audience to rocket him to fame. (His previous acting gigs didn't result in anything close to this fanbase.) From here I'll be surprised if we ever see him play any other role other than a heterosexual male. And honestly, that's fine with me.
MUSIC
Scrubb! Awesome band, great songs. You don't even have to understand Thai to feel what the lyrics are saying.
I suspect that Scrubb might have also written the song that plays over the end credits of each episode, sung by Bright. It has their vibe and Bright does a nice job with it.
I'm not a fan of the song sung by Bright that was released as the series ended, but this opinion is probably tarnished by my disappointment over everything else.
REWATCH VALUE
I will never rewatch this series. While the beginning episodes are wonderful, there'd be no way to enjoy them knowing what comes later. In fact I'd probably start to pick apart the good episodes too, looking for hints of the lameness to come.
THE 'PORN' DEFENSE
A lot of diehard fans of the series have defended it by saying that anyone who criticizes the lack of physical affection between the leads is looking for a series that depicts explicit sex.
All I can say is: if this is your best argument then you have already lost. Nobody in their right mind wants explicit sex or porn in a BL series. When you have to misrepresent an opponent's argument in order to counter it, you're only saying that you don't have an intelligent response to what they are actually saying. You are admitting defeat. You are admitting that '2gether' is a failure.
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My review is a personal opinion on the drama. This is not meant to be a review that sways anyone. If you are unsure about watching the drama, don't look to reviews to help you make that decision as we all have our own personal likes and preferences. How do you completely ruin a drama that started off strong?
Answer:
By giving us characters that had more chemistry when they were "fake dating" than when they were truly dating. By using women as plot devices to create drama and jealousy. By giving us a couple that doesn't communicate and understands that there will be times when their relationship will be tested, but that they can overcome that. By dedicating more time on the development of the side stories (Mil's crush on Tine, the fights that had little to do with the couple, Wat's Alphaness)
Lack of real intimacy between a couple that is supposed to be "in love"...
I have stated before and I will stated it again (especially since I am an ACE) I don't care for the kisses or the sex , but these two characters behave more like brothers than a couple. Depicting a couple in love doesn't mean having them do sexual things. It can be shown through different forms such as, both couples cooking together and talking about their day, doing something that creates a mood but doesn't mean they jump each other's bones. Comforting one another when one is feeling down (which reminds me, Sarawat not comforting Tine and actually turning his back on him and going to sleep, came across as a man who is tried of the relationship they are in. That was so weird). Instead, we have Sarawat just "patting" Tine on the head. I get it different cultures have different forms of expression when it comes to love, but that patting on the head is akin to an adult infantilizing another adult or it comes across as condescending "oh there there." It is bizarre how these two had more of a couple chemistry when they were fake dating than when they got together. What an amazing feat! [sarc]
And I will repeat this again....the fact that we have had a rinse and repeat story line the minute that Tine and Sarawat got together (Mil chasing Tine, Wat now with Pam) is lazy script.
This drama had a lazy script, had characters that de-evolved instead of evolving (Tine taking on more female characteristics "ukeness", Wat becoming some spineless idiot by not putting Pan in her place right way) The story was choppy due to editing in many episodes and it just didn't flow well.
I really liked the first five episodes, I thought the story was promising and while it did have some flaws specially in the editing, the drama just got worse. It's a shame really cause it could have been so nice.
Music was great though...and Gunsmile is always a great comedic character (saving grace in most episodes LOL)
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This series is over rated and disappointing.
Don't get me wrong I love the actors and the first half of the show. I even re-watched the first few episodes just to ease the pain of waiting for one whole week for the next episode. As I said, early episodes were good. I thought they had chemistry and spark. The plot was also good and promising BUT.....As the story progress it also lost its spark. The plot became repetitive, the side stories were set aside, the conflict became lame, the character development was nowhere to be found, in short the script/screenwriting became too dependent to the popularity of the show and the visuals of the actors. If the actors of this show were not good looking, this will be criticized heavily but since they are both handsome and popular, the bad storyline and acting was overshadowed.
Not to mention that they neglected the second main lead of the show which is Drake and Frank. They were literally set aside. It was so bad that it felt that they were just used to make this a BL series.
The chemistry of the early episodes was lost due to lack of character and relationship development. The last four episodes made the characters look and act too straight to be gay. They looked like friends and not a couple. The actors are too reserved to be called as a couple. Ironically this series lost its spark when the two main leads became a real couple. Sad that they are more in love when they are fake dating.
I was expecting more from this because it came from the director of Kiss Me Again and was written by the author of Theory of Love. Now I feel bad for Jittirain, the author of the novel, because this series messed up her creation. Unfortunately it did not live up to its popularity and standard. They can't say its because of COVID19 like Why R U?, because this was pre- produced and they have already finished filming the entire series, so I think there can be no excuse to all of its flaws.
The last episode DID NOT save this series at all. It even made it WORST to the point that viewers felt the awkwardness of the main actors, as if they don't like touching each other. The ugly directing and the story that sucks can no longer be tolerated. Sorry for using this kind of words but this is the best way I can describe what happend to this series. One comment even said, and I love how he described the ending, confession in front of an audience doesn't make it extra special.
The actors made it so obvious that they don't like to act as BL couple at the same time the director and script did not help them with making them look like a BL couple. It was a sub par acting (though I am trying to let it pass since this is Win's first series and Bright's first BL role). I think the actors should reconsider accepting BL roles if they are not fully committed to it because even if you are a good actor but you are doing something against your will, it will always show. The director, producer and screenwriter should also try to reflect what went wrong.
I remember the actors of this show said that love is just love. I agree. Love is something you can show without the racy gestures actually love is best shown with small gestures. The bad thing about this series is NOT the lack of intimate scenes but the LACK OF LOVE in their supposedly real relationship.
Things that are good in this series? Well, this has good OST (except the TINE song, it was meh) and the early chemistry but other than that, it was just a series about two handsome guys that was said to be boyfriends but act like buddies.
Not all trending series are good and even if the actors are good looking and lovable doesn't justify the bad screenplay and execution of the story.
This is a very disappointing drama.
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Let me start by telling you all that this is a bromance, not a romance.The story starts off really well and then just turns into something that isn’t romance or friendship. There is no affection showed and hardly anything romantic ever happens. Not even a date or movie or romantic meal.
The last episode was possibly the biggest let down. The ending was, for lack of a better word, blah! It’s not about skinship, the lead characters behaved like they liked each other but not like boyfriends. Tine cried like a baby over something that was hardly serious. Sarawat was bold and consistent, but Tine had zero trust or faith. One hug and the world ended for him? He ran straight into the arms of another man? Refused to listen to reason. That’s a middle school drama, not college level drama. Oh and the high five ending was just so bland. Gah!
Phukong was so desperate he wanted Mil even if he was only a second option. Mil would try to date Tine if he won the contest or would have to date Phukong if he lost. Wow! How romantic! That’s who’s dream? That’s sad and pathetic, and no one deserves that.
Thank god for Man and Type. They were the only characters that made me happy. The one true couple in this drama.
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Let's start with the positives:
Episode 1 to 4 were perfect in my opinion. Episodes 5 to 7 were also good, episodes 8 to 10 were kind of hit and miss, but still had a few memorable scenes.
At the beginning, the chemistry between Wat and Tine was palpable. The longing stares, the shy looks, the secret smiles, even the head pats were successful in giving me so many feels. It seemed like a simple story, lighthearted, funny and romantic. The story was moving smoothly, didn't feel too rushed. It made me look forward to Fridays.
I also love the OST. Thanks to this series, I got to know Scrubb. I love their songs and I think they were used effectively in the series, especially in the beginning/middle part.
Initially the acting was also really good. Sarawat's aloofness and Tine's energy were portrayed very well. Win, especially seemed very natural despite this being his debut.
The negatives which quickly made me drop the rating from a 9 to a lowly 5:
Starting from episode 8, problems with the writing, direction, and editing became more obvious. it always felt like they were stuffing too much into each episode. Episode 11 to 13 were probably the worst episodes I've ever seen in a BL. They were disastrous.
The outline of the story is good enough. But the plot moved through every single cliche possible: Unnecessary drama from ex-gf, multiple jealousy tropes, stupid misunderstandings, possessive bf trope, 'fragile uke' who needs protection, etc etc.
The drama/conflict was dragged out till the very last episode, making the end feel very rushed and unsatisfactory, just hastily tying up all the loose ends. We never get to see our couple be happy in their relationship, they always had problems. I lost faith in their love after they got together. I was no longer invested in the characters.
The characterization was not uniform throughout. Both the main characters were behaving unlike themselves in the later episodes.
Secondary couples had very little development. Maybe with more attention they could've added more to the series. In the beginning when the main couple was great, they felt unnecessary. Towards the end when the main couple was bromancing instead of romancing, I wanted more from the other couples.
The leads had more chemistry during the 'falling in love' phase, with loving stares and shy looks giving the audience so much feels. But after they actually become a couple, the chemistry just vanished. Their hugs and headpats became awkward. They were more like bros,actually in the final episode they were more like strangers than even bros. Even after they reconcile in the end, it's hard to believe in their love because there was such a dearth of intimacy.
Though the acting was decent at many points, towards the end it became lazy, repetitive, and cringey. Bright especially looked like he was uncomfortable with his character.
This series has been such a disappointment. I feel so betrayed because I was so into it at the beginning, really rooting for the characters. Hence the ranty review.
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Guys, pals, fam. Where do I even start with this mess.
The BIG ASS issues with this drama are:
- Toxicity
- Nonsense (both for the story and the characters)
- Lack of Consequences
(- Editing too but not as bad as the rest)
Let's start as usual with
GENERAL
• NO COHESIVENESS WHATSOEVER
1. Character's personality, their relationship, and the situations in general happen/change however and whenever the plot needs them to.
Ex.
a. Sarawat & Tine's friends become friends but then they're rivals but then boh
b. Fangirls hating on Tine but then suddenly shipping them together with no apparent reason (it's not character development, sorry)
c. Green appearing and disappearing accordingly to what the story needs
I could go on but this review is already going to be long as it is.
2. Double Standards.
A big point in the TOXICITY issue is how relationship are represented.
Green stalks and harasses Tine, in the EXACT SAME way Tine does with Sarawat at the beginning, or Man does with Type FOR THE WHOLE TIME, or even PhuKong does with Mil.
So why is it that when it's Green the one doing it, it's annoying and "dangerous" (Tine's words) and we hope he stops, but when it's the rest of them it's funny and/or romantic? That's NOT how it works!
• GIRLS REPRESENTATION
Three (3). It's the number of girls with an actual working brain we get to see during the drama. The rest of them (A LOT) are either weird (Tine's exes), a brainless screaming crowd or become brainless screaming people the moment Sarawat appears.
It's just really sad.
• EDITING
It's really confusing sometimes. It's not easy to understand if you're watching a flashback, a dream, the present, the future or what.
Also. I'm sorry but I HAVE to mention this. THE SEQUENCE OF TINE SEEING SARAWAT EVERYWHERE IN EP 7.
That edit is just HORRIBLE.
Tine sees Sarawat everywhere without a real reason, without a good bgm emphasizing the process of Tine realizing and coming to terms with the fact he misses Wat, without even having the time to reflect on it. It's just bad.
( My Engineer did a way better job in the same situation, but the "missing" was about a frogging gift box. I feel ashamed in behalf of 2gether ' staff, honestly)
• ACTING
.... Y'all remember Sarawat used to smile too, right?
WHERE TF WAS IT IN THE LAST 6 EPS??
Especially when with Tine I remember seeing it maybe once, when they were both on the couch while Type was "sleeping" in the bed.
That's it.
I honestly don't know what happened to Bright, or to his acting coach for him to have almost for the entire second half of the drama this sort of facial paresis.
Maybe it's just that they didn't get the note that while the drama progresses and we get to know him better, he should start showing MORE emotions. But okay, whatever.
I kinda liked Win tho, especially the emotional scene in ep 10. That was good, and a cute scene as a whole.
I hope they'll both get to improve and act in other series in the future.
Gunsmile and Taptop the gems of this series, bless them.
• GENERAL NONSENSE
to name just a few examples:
1. How Sarawat says in front of Green & screaming fangirls that he and Tine are only friends just to tell later in the same ep that he likes Tine. In front of Green & screaming fangirls
2. Sarawat not letting Tine talk even if he's supposed to be secretly in love with him already
3. Whatever happened in the bg during Phukong's interview in ep 5
4. Sarawat beaten up because some girls liked his ig posts??
• TOXICITY
Direct consequence of the "double standard" problem I talked about, or together with it, is the narrative this series is normalizing:
"No doesn't really mean 'no'. They're just playing hard to get, and if you keep doing whatever you're doing they'll eventually love you back"
Do I really need to say how wrong and creepy and dangerous this belief can be?
And not just that. There are a number of bad behaviors normalized. Stalking, harassing, catfishing, getting drunk WAY too often...
CHARACTERS
• Tine
He's often showed as just dumb. And that's really sad. Even the time he cut the pick in half, it would have been so easy to make it an act of ingenuity to affectionately make fun of in the future but the way it was shown, it just made Tine look stupid.
Also there is no character development, all his flaws are there for the whole drama.
Ex. He was selfish and irresponsible when he paid Phukong to go somewhere else, and again later when ditched the music club because he didn't need Sarawat anymore, and when he went outside alone in the dark during the trip ecc.
At least he's coherent I guess
• Sarawat
Complete opposite to Tine, he changes his behavior CONSTANTLY.
From distant and reserved, to affectionate and clingy to distant but also flirty to caring to uncomfortable...
It's a rollercoaster and it doesn't have a logic development
• Man
I hate him and I'm not even sorry.
Helps Wat getting Tine drunk, stalks Type and keeps following and harassing him even after Type VERY CLEARLY tells him he's not interested, catfishing him in the meantime.
He's not a good character.
• Type
He deserved better. I knew he would eventually end up with Man, but he really deserved so much more than a liar creepy stalker as love interest *sigh*
• Gunsmile and the rest of the friends
I don't even remember their names, that's how important they are in the show.
Tine's friends especially don't really do a lot, except maybe constantly going after girls and sometimes randomly giving an advice that the plot needs to "develop".
They also don't have any consistency in the way they act, but I blame this to the writing of the plot more than to them as characters.
• Mil
He doesn't have the space he needed. For Tine and Sarawat, he is an asshole that keeps bothering someone who already has a bf and doesn't know when to stop.
But he also seems to have morals and be kind. No space to develop it tho
• Phukong
Another stalker in the series.
Doesn't really have a plotline besides trying to become Mil's bf
• Green
Green doesn't make sense as a whole.
I appreciate having a semi-good representation of a "feminine" gay, even being seen as strong when he goes against Tine's masked friends in ep 1
But... He doesn't want anyone to know he's dating P'Dim but he has no problem to follow Tine everywhere being super loud and direct? And if he broke up with P'Dim for 2 mins ecc... Why was the whole question still going on in ep 7?
Last point.
RELATIONSHIPS
• Sarawat/Tine
I have no idea where their chemistry went from the moment they became official. They look progressively more awkward and uncomfortable being around each other. To the point where they seem to be almost forced or in pain when together, and far more comfortable and happy with their friends. Hello?? Aren't you supposed to be a new couple who just moved together (way too fast too, if we have to be honest)?? Where is the intimacy? The tension? The love??
They also have NO communication nor trust.
In ep 12 for ex. First Sarawat turns his back to Tine even while being well aware of him feeling upset. Then he reassures him the following morning, just to act suspicious and hiding things from him immediately after. And don't let me start with how Sarawat with the help of his friends makes Tine get drunk so that he can post a suggestive pic on Tine's IG to declare to the world he's taken.
Should that be romantic? Cause it's NOT. It's creepy and a BIG red flag.
But as with everything else, this action has no consequences.
Like when Sarawat promises not to let their friends know they're together yet, but announces it to them 0.3 secs later instead. Or really anything. No consequences at all.
• Man/Type
I won't repeat the whole "creepy obsessive stalker" thing, but let's talk about how the infamous dinner went. Type tried to tell Man not to go, but Man completely ignored him (as per usual) and decided to go. During the dinner he talks about Type and tells to Type's coworkers things it's absolutely not his place to tell. He doesn't know if Type is friend or even comfortable with them. It's so disrespectful towards Type. After that, Type STILL tells his colleague to stop when he was making fun of Man and tries to protect him.
And people hated on him because he left with his co-worker. OKAY.
(I think he should have walked home or taken a taxi and left them both there)
EXTRA
They are red sometimes when drunk. I promised to give extra points for this so here I am.
And another one because they wash hands after using the toilet.
I appreciate the little things ?
CONCLUSION
What can I say. This drama started up in my top 10, but from ep 4 on it started going down. A pity, honestly. Especially because I love the "fake bf" trope.
Even putting the toxicity aside, the complete lack of consequences for literally anything that happens completely destroys any tension even when you are supposed to feel it. And things keep happening without a real reason, completely random.
I honestly have NO idea what show the people praising this, the acting, the story, the relationship and so on are watching, cause it can't be the same.
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HIGH FIVE TO THE FACE!!!WITH A CHAIR IS WHAT I NEED!!
I honestly am too drained to write out my disappointment! So much wasted! As a Novel reader, this was such a slap to the face or should I say HIGH FIVE to the face!! The first episodes were good and then everything just derailed after they became a couple! Can't even blame Covid-19 because they finished before the lockdown thing. The ending was such utter disrespect to the source material..I can't even rewatch it.. the novel was so good! How do you mess up this much.. Win was adorable and he portrayed Tine well, including the insecurities, Bright however.....No comment
Wish my boy Gunsmile had more screen time. He actually made some scenes bearable...
This wasn't a romance story, this was a weird friends story! Not even Bromance. Atleast Bromance compels you to ship the couple, SaraTine just bored me in the last 3 episodes..
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