Romeo vs Juliet with a twist
Okay so this drama did kind of catch me by surprise, because I most definitely was not expecting this sort of story.The story is interesting, in the sense the opening of Korn & Intouch devasting ending, rather than beginning, The series starts with the tragic double suicide of Korn/In, certainly not the lighthearted schoolboys-fall-in-love stuff that is so common in BL (though the characters are students). The double suicide is the result of parental objections to their relationship because of their sexual orientation, a rather serious consequence compared to popular BL series that treat the topic of objecting parents less seriously. the reincarnation or reborn of both the characters years later, but with a heartbreaking twist of how the recall the past lives. I will say that Pharm role and the way he carried his out role was really amazing, you literally felt his emotions and sadness when he recalled a piece of intouch memory. The 4 main characters were really well played and the story flowed through well, you could see the build up of Korn/Intouch through Pharm/Dean and how each of them experienced they love for each in there own, the difficulties and challenges that they faced.
In spite of major fantastical element (reincarnation), the biggest plus for this drama is that it depicts a healthy, positive, loving, realistic gay relationship, nothing is sensationalized or fetishized, there are no toxic tendencies, . On the other hand, homophobia and, especially, suicide are treated seriously and respectfully . Their consequences are serious, horrifying and lasting, the entire families devastated.
Music - This single handily will win over the audience. The lyrics are deep, personal and resonates with the pain of the past and the hope for the future.
Overall : This drama was well thought out and excuted well, there were small hitches, but not enough to take you away from the story and what was transpiring.
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I'm going to address the two biggest misunderstandings about what's happening.
The first is easy, Pharm gives too much of himself to In.
Second is the pacing. The slow pace of this film is important for the emotional punch.
It seems some people only watch Marvel films or action/adventure and don't understand or appreciate the subtleties of a slow build. Even the teaser moments at the end of an episode are carefully crafted.
The story itself is fairly complicated and requires more attention than the average romance. It's important to work out how Pharm and Deen are related to In and Korn.
The side story of Win and Team is itself a reflection of the main story. Who's more forward. Who's more reluctant.
There are larger themes here as well but I'll leave those to the viewer.
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Until We Meet Again is definitely one of the best Thai BL series of all time.
To tell you honestly, I was reluctant to watch it at first when I saw the poster. I was like, "Here we again with that not-so-common school theme." But luckily, I was wrong!I didn't expect this series to be this good, really. The plot was nicely written. I have no more words to describe how great it actually was—just superb. The change in the tones from humour to grief goes back and forth real quick. You would be crying one moment, then laugh out loud next. The chemistry between the two main couples (FlukeDean & InKorn) was so raw and real. They didn't even have to try actually. They did THAT.
If you are looking for a Thai BL series to watch right now, I just want to say that Until We Meet Again is existing and you're missing out.
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La storia mi è piaciuta molto, nel complesso è infatti molto scorrevole e interessante. Mi sono immersa totalmente nella storia già dalla prima parte del primo episodio. Capire che cosa era successo a Korn e In, capire il perché hanno fatto un gesto così estremo, il tutto con l'incredibile recitazione di Earth. Sto consigliando questa serie a tutti quelli che possono essere interessati, merita davvero di essere vista.
Alcune parti però mi sono risultate troppo lente e pesanti, mentre altre invece troppo sbrigative, ma nonostante questo mi ha trattenuto davanti allo schermo.
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1Life is such sweet sorrow... Death too... heck it is complicated
Have you ever wondered what would happen to Romeo and Juliet if they where to meet again? Just that here it started in the late 80s, in Thailand and both are men.... but even the drama itself makes reference to the shakespeare so I am pretty sure that was part of what the writer was thinking when writing this drama. To be honest I find this one so hard to rate that it is ridiculous,... jumping between anything from an 8.5 to an 11.The story is really interesting, playing with a well known classic and a very delicate subject, in the beginning of the drama I almost feared that this drama was a little bit too positive towards suicide but as the story progresses it becomes more and more clear how complex this issue is, and one may start to wonder if it is a happy or sad thing to meet again... and regain all those painful memories from ones past life... I can not stress enough how deep they dive in to this and what a great job they do showing this in a respectful way. However the sobbing and constant tears that follow did become a bit to much at one point. I could understand the need for it but at some point it became slightly tiersum... However I do not know if that is a good or bad thing. Also it does become slightly far fetched..
The characters in this drama (both past and present) are really lovable, interesting, well preformed and I would say pretty well written.
Phram is this sweet delicate soul, tormented by the trauma from his previous life. He is such a sweet little kitten (scaredy cat) making you want to protect him from all harm. This boy seemed to have no middle ether he is this cheerful bright guy or terrified and covered in tears.
In (past Phram) is such a sweet bundle of energy and joy, kind of like Phram could have been if he had not been tormented by his past life.
Dean is also very lovable, some may say he is kind of cold but he is actually a very warm caring teddy. The type to be there and make you feel safe. Though he does have a few issues too, he shows a lot of respect towards Pharm and seemed to understand the importance of consent (most of the time).
Korn (past Dean) is also very lovable, except for the whole killing himself in front of his dad and lover... (first scene of the drama) he comes of as this calm, wise and kind older brother.
And the rest of the characters are (mostly) easy to love, show development and fit their purpose well be it for product placement of Lays or make up... they just fit in so well.
Other strong points of this drama are the desserts and swim team... Also it has one pretty great umbrella scene!
This is definitely a drama that will keep you interested and have you feel a whole range of emotions and therefore a drama I highly recommend.
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You will love the series so much!
I just wanna appreciate the acting, the story line, the plot, the twist and the undeniable chemistry of the three couples. This series is full package.Kudos to the actors, director, writers, crew and Wabi Sabi for creating such a beautiful series. While watching this, I have different emotions, I laughed so hard, giggled, screaming while watching those romantic scenes and at the same time, I cried so hard especially, on the last two episodes. I felt the heaviness of the scenes especially for Fluke's amazing acting and also, to Ohm... All of them gave justice to their characters, superb acting performance!
My most favorite part is when Pharm pointed the gun on his chin and hysterically crying while having those In's memories of witnessing how Korn's killed himself. I also love the part where Dean met his grandmother, Pharm or I must say In meeting his sister An after a long time
and also those scene with Alin, such a heartfelt scene. Hope to see more of this kind of series. From the beginning to end is so amazing!
This have a very special place in every viewer's hearts.
Family, love, acceptance, understanding and strength.
You will not regret watching this super amazing series!
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This sticks out in the BL genre
Trigger warnings: somewhat graphic depiction of suicide and a lot of talk about what is basically a suicide pact. Homophobia and some homophobic language. Anxiety is discussed and panic attacks take place. Weapons (guns).With all of that said, none of it (accept the homophobia) is disrespectful. This drama is telling a story about life in the past and present and how (Thai) societal views on LGBT+ relationships and people have changed. The mental health and suicide stuff is not exploitative and it fits in the plot/ has a place in the story line.
Okay, so this drama made me cry a little in the first episode because it starts with heavy topics and it is a little jarring to watch. I will say it is not like The Effect (another BL) or anything like that. I would watch this again but I couldn't finish The Effect (it is good though but hard to watch).
This drama does a lot to break down barriers between the past and present and essentially does that with LGBT stigmas as well. I appreciated this drama from a story telling point of view. It is so much more artistic in the plot then most Thai BL drama's I have seen. I appreciate the artistry of the flash backs and how the y are sometimes also the dreams of the present characters. I really would suggest giving this a try, it's beautiful story that didn't rip out my heart, stomp on it, and set it on fire (only a little bit).
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Why Until We Meet Again is special among Thai BLs
Until We Meet Again is one of my favorite Thai BLs of all time.I wouldn’t say it subverts tropes so much as it utilizes them as a spice for story, rather than utterly depending upon them. Most BLs (out of Thailand in particular) turn the tropes into the story. The narrative is entirely dependent on BL tropes for scene structure and plot. They are BL trope reliant/dependent.
UWMA is not like that at all.
Another way of putting it is that if you pulled all the BL specific tropes out of something like, oh I don’t know, 2gether, it would actually fall completely apart.
Now, I’m not talking about the romance foundational tropes like fated mates or fake relationship, those form the narrative backbone of any romance story (and most BL is romance). I’m talking about visual element tropes like baby is a floppy drunk, or the dreaded sponge bath, or wound tending, sharing earbuds, sharing a closet, etc...
For something like 2gether, these tropes ARE VITAL to moving the story along, fixing pacing issues, etc.. Which is FINE. That’s how most hey-day yaoi is. It’s how many contemporary romances are now.
But with Until We Meet Again if you removed all the BL tropes, the story would still be there, standing strong. The tropes add BL flavor to the series, like a spice, but in essence UWMA is actually just a fated mates romance, and it would stand strong as such if all the tropes were striped away (although we would probably lose WinTeam under those circumstances).
Another series that recently acts this way is 1000 Stars. Which is why, I think, it had such broad appeal and rabid fans.
Since it also doesn’t have a suicide element trigger, I would poset that 1000 Stars is actually one of the best BLs to recommend to outside watchers in order to lure them into the genre. Until it came out i tended to rec UWMA with a trigger warning, now I’ll probably be pimping 1k* first.
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What I applaud most about this drama, is its story, which was in par with the mainstream dramas. It was commendable, how the drama binds together all the characters and not just focus on the leading couple. In most BL dramas, the main focus is always on the buildup of the relationship between the main couple and their friends. Basically the leads' struggle within themselves is highlighted. But "Until I met you" was refreshingly different. I could see the story from the eyes of many different characters. I could feel their emotions. The flashback scenes were amazing. Each scene had a meaning, a reason to be there in the show.
The acting and character development of each character was very good. And I mean it when I say that for 'each character'. Dean is a quite and strict man. But gradually after meeting with Pharm, he starts feeling more happy and socialises more with his siblings and his friends. I loved how his personality undergoes slow and gradual changes like a little smile or little romantic stares instead of stark changes. It is because he has always carried the burden of his memories, actually much more than Pharm. Pharm is a cute, innocent boy and dude, he has given some good emotional scenes throughout the series. Talking about the development of other characters, I loved how the story binded the Ariyasakul and the Chatphokin families together, both 30 years ago and in the present time. So, each and every character had something to realise and to deliver, from Dean's mother and grandmother to Pharm's grandfather, uncle and his cousin. Now, saving the best for the last, I loved the acting of Intouch, portrayed by Earth. I believe that he had the most variations in his acting, from sweet to cute, hyper energetic and sad too. I simply loved him. I think he and Korn had more variations of romantic scenes, i;e: from food making trials to giving the umbrella to Korn under the rain, from the candy and the keychain gift to the beach confession, whereas the love display between Dean and Pharm was limited to visiting each others places and Pharm cooking good food. I wished there were more.
I loved the ost of 'you and me forever'. It's so freaking romantic. I think this drama will be a memorable one in the universe of BL. It is a must for all BL and all drama lovers. I re-watched it within a week, this is how much I loved the whole scenario. Do watch it. You won't be disappointed.
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The series does deal with serious topics like homophobia and suicide, which it might be triggering since is really explicit. There's some aspects of that that I did not like how it was handled in the last two episodes, but I won't go in detail about that since it would spoil it. Also just being nitpicky there were a couple of episodes in the middle that felt more like fillers so it gets boring, but overall is a great series with a magnificent team.
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I liked the unique story, two lovers that couldn't be together in a past life that end up being reincarnated and meeting in a new life. The only thing I didn't like is the crying, it was happening so much, and I get it when you're freaked out by the flashbacks but you were gonna have a good life and things are chill so why keep crying? Idk, that's just me though. Lol.
The acting wasn't bad, semi new faces, they were all cute together, I liked the relationship and friendships and acceptance.
Music was enjoyable, really set the mood.
Overall, I wouldn't rewatch it lol but it was a good show. Made me cry and all that though.
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