Foi sem duvidas uma historia muito bem contada e produzida onde os acontecimentos fazem sentido e os personagens tem uma razão de ser exatamente da forma que nos aparentam.
Embora o contexto de corrupção dos poderosos possa parecer batido a primeira vista ( já que é um assunto corriqueiro tanto em filmes como em doramas). Stranger consegue entregar isso tudo como se fosse uma novidade, tem algo refrescante nesse Kdrama que o diferencia dos demais que assisti anteriormente.
O protagonista foi um personagem maravilhoso durante todos os episódios, ele demonstrou exatamente o que um promotor deveria ser, isto é, um homem integro, determinado, corajoso e muito inteligente. Sempre tive a sensação de que ele estava a um passo a frente das outras pessoas de sua equipe o que tornava essa jornada pela descoberta do culpado ainda mais interessante. Eu não costumo gostar de homens secos e indiferentes mas por algum motivo me apaixonei completamente por esse personagem em especial.
Eu já comecei esse drama com a noção de que não haveria romance aqui, mas mesmo que eu estivesse ciente que o foco do dorama não fosse esse, foi impossivel não shippar o promotor com aquela policial, já que eles formavam uma dupla que estranhamente combinava muito bem. Sim, suas personalidades eram opostas mas mesmo assim, meu lado romantico falou mais alto e esperou que em algum momento alguma coisa acontecesse entre esses dois kkkkk
O ritmo desse dramas foi fora de serie, fico feliz que nao tenha acompanhado o lançamento desse drama porque eu certamente nao conseguiria ter que esperar uma longa semana para ver o proximo episodio. Fiquei tão empolgada pelo que vir a seguir que maratonei ele em menos de uma semana.
O ponto chave de tudo essa historia é descobrir o culpado das mortes que estao sendo investigadas e nesse ponto preciso dizer que fiquei paranoica e em cada episodio o culpado mudava de nome pra mim, eu suspeitava de tudo e de todos, os unicos personagens que ficaram fora do meu radar de culpado foram os protagonistas kkkkk.
E sim eu gostei do final e fiquei mais animada ainda ao saber que seremos presenteados com uma segunda temporada esse ano de 2020, mal posso esperar para ver a continuação dessa historia que já se tornou uma das minhas favoritas ao ponto de me deixar de ressaca doramatica sem vontade de ver nada novo por uma semana, por medo de nunca mais encontrar algo que se compare ao nivel de stranger.
Se e indico esse Kdrama? é evidente que sim, minha vontade é de panfleta-lo para o universo inteiro assistir!
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Um drama investigativo com mais lições de vida que alguns melodramas!
É um drama investigativo, com um ótimo roteiro e plot-twist maravilhosos. Para alguns o drama pode parece sem nada atrativo até o fim do segundo ep que é hoje as coisas começam a fazer sentido.Apesar de ser um drama investigativo ele tem muito mais da parte " a moral da história" do que a maioria. A figura anticorrução é bem observada pela figura da policial Yeo Jin (#DoonaBae) e o Shin Mok ( #JoSeungWoo) faz um ótimo papel de analista de situações.
Acho que para um drama fictício ele aborda muito a realidade principalmente com os personagens "agridoces", mostrando que ninguém é santo o tempo todo e todos tem seus monstros internos e pecadores.
Não é um drama de romance mas impossível não shippar, nada verdade eu shippei todo mundo com todo mundo os diálogos ambíguos foram ótimos (rs). Apesar de não ter romance e o drama não te dá romance até o final o drama acaba perfeitamente.
Enfim... nota: 10/10 real perfeito sem defeitos, tão sem defeitos que eu tô com medo de assistir a segunda temporada.
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Eu geralmente não me prendo à um drama logo nos primeiros minutos mas este foi um drama extraordinário. A escolha do elenco foi muito bem feita e as atuações foram impecáveis. O enredo é fluído e a maneira que a história se desenvolve é admirável, me senti dentro da história e PRECISAVA assistir ao próximo episódio. Não me senti cansada ou enfadada em nenhum momento. Os personagens são excepcionalmente interessantes e o que dizer do maravilhoso promotor? É possível se apaixonar por um personagem desta maneira? Acabo de encontrar meu personagem preferido: Hwang Shi Mok! A sintonia dos protagonistas foi simplesmente formidável, uma dupla que aparentemente não tem nada em comum, um promotor sem expressão, frio e que não demonstra emoções e uma policial durona, mas com um bom coração unidos por um bem maior, o combate a este mal que assola a sociedade: a corrupção.
Resumindo: Este K-drama teve tudo o que eu mais gosto em um drama: uma história crível, personagens intrigantes, ótimas atuações e um desenvolvimento fácil de acompanhar, eu AMEI! Aguardo ansiosamente pela segunda temporada que será lançada este ano!
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Profundidade da relação humana.
Já assisti a algum tempo, mas decidi escrever agora. São poucas as séries que já assisti que me deixam tão investido em um plot de mistério ou investigação. Mas além disso, me deixam investido em um personagem tão intrigante quanto Hwang Shi Mok. Ele é um personagem interessantíssimo. Por causa da condição dele, muitas vezes Shi-Mok tem dificuldade em lidar com as emoções alheias. O que o torna um exímio promotor/investigador. Palmas para a atuação de toda a CAST, mas principalmente de Jo Seung Woo, que incorpora um personagens de nuances difíceis de se interpretar. Mas que mesmo assim, foi realizado e interpretado com sucesso pelo ator. Os casos são interessantes também, e suas ligações com a grande corrupção do setor público são muito bem elaboradas.Um 'must watch' para os amantes de mistério e investigação!
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Eu nunca fui de escrever resenha aqui por causa da vergonha, sempre deixo escrito pra mim mesma em notas, mas como este é O DORAMA do século, eu acho que vale a pena quebrar essa insegurança pra começar a escrever um pouco do que eu (algo bem particular) acho de cada dorama que assisto, então vamos lá. TALVEZ TENHA UM POUCO DE SPOILER, então quem não tiver interesse, é só parar de ler por aqui.
Comecei o dorama acreditando que seria só mais um de política ou suspense, não sei exatamente, comecei sem interesse nenhum, até porque na maioria das minha escolhas, estão sempre os doramas mais comentados do momento ou doramas que contém um elenco impecável, como Vagabund, por exemplo, então eu fui pega de surpresa em um primeiro momento, no qual me deparei com uma atuação excelente do Jo Seung Woo e uma narrativa incrivelmente fascinante, resumida em: NÃO POSSO TIRAR OS OLHOS DESSA SÉRIE POR NENHUM SEGUNDO. Ao final, quando você chega no episódio 15, ele é tão envolvedor que chega a passar rapidamente, ou seja, quando você vê, você terminou o dorama e ainda não sabe o que fazer da vida, por que de verdade? Vai ser raro encontrar outra trama tão boa quanto esta. A maioria das minhas notas foram 10, exceto a última, mas ela tem uma explicação, talvez a história seja um pouco complexa demais, o que requer bastante atenção, isso é bom? É ótimo, mas às vezes era preciso pensar demais pra conseguir acompanhar a mesma linha de raciocínio dos promotores ou dos delegados que investigavam cada caso, já falando um pouco sobre a história em si, é incrível ver como tudo ao longo dos episódios vão sendo esclarecidos de forma natural, deu pra perceber que não rolou aquela coisa forçada que sempre acontece nos doramas, quando o diretor enrola e torna a história repetitiva e maçante. Incrivelmente, o diretor de Stranger, conseguiu desvendar definitivamente tudo apenas nos últimos minutos de série e mesmo que rapidamente, mostrou a vida do personagem Hwang Shi Mok, após sua transferência para outra cidade, e ali, eles já deixaram um spoiler, tipo "volta pra cá, porque você vai fazer parte da equipe especial de investigação". E aí quando fui pesquisar sobre Jo Seung Woo e Bae Doo Na (não falei dela ainda, mas QUE ATRIZ É ESSA? Linda!!!!) me deparei em sua linha do tempo com Stranger 2, se sofri? Sofri demais, e com certeza não vejo a hora de chegar janeiro para que eu possa me deliciar com essa maravilha.
Sem mais delongas, eu queria falar que é um dorama que vale muito a pena assistir, prende muito a sua atenção, a atuação de cada um foi incrível, eu acho que o elenco não poderia ser substituído por ninguém, parece que foram escolhidos a dedo para cada personagem (nota mil para essa escolha), a história é envolvente (e até mesmo comovente algumas vezes), há um romance soft digamos assim, nada agressivo e nem muito clichê, tudo na dose certa, mesmo que eu ainda tenha esperado por um beijo, ou algo mais doce entre os personagens principais, entretanto nada me decepcionou quanto a isso, então por isso, assistam, e mais, não assistam só uma vez, assistam duas, três, mil vezes, assim como eu farei. :D
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I originally decided to start this drama because I was captivated by the promotional poster - I knew nothing in particular of Jo Seung Woo or Bae Doo Na, but the poster drew me in immediately: dark, exciting, and striking - a great representation of this drama. I was sold after the first episode.
While I truly love K-Dramas, I think we can all agree that a lot of them are dumbed down to a point where you don't have to truly pay attention or think about what is happening in them - everything is explained plainly, no questions asked. Even crime and mystery dramas often times overdo it with the explanations so the viewer won't have to ask themselves 'huh? what happened? why'. You won't find this here. This is a drama that will require your attention all throughout, as missing a dialogue or a glance will confuse you later, without much explanation. This is a drama that asks for your full attention, and a drama that keeps its momentum until its last minute. There is no fizzling out, no unnecessary showdowns and car chases and fist fights, no rushed endings - no, everything progresses at a smooth pace that by the end you don't even notice that it's over because you're so used to its steady progression and flow. It feels strange and sad that in the coming weeks, I won't see Pros. Hwang Si Mok and Det. Han Yeo Jin running around and taking down corruption.
While Jo Seung Woo and Bae Doo Na are not what you might call top Hallyu stars (I'd argue about BDN but anyway), as say Park Bo Gum or Jun Ji Hyun, both are top-notch well-known experienced actors that infuse their characters with life all throughout. Not only them - the whole cast is stellar and even if I try to think of one loose performance, I can't. I could hardly believe that Jo Seung Woo is the same guy who played the main in God's Gift and that Yoo Jae Myung (Pros. Lee Chang Jun) is the same person who played Do Bong Soon's father.
And, of course, I cannot fail to mention the writer, Lee Soo Yeon, who has developed two of the most unique female protagonists in K-dramas for me. One determined to stand by justice no matter what and one determined to clear her father's name no matter the price - both executed perfectly until the end with no unnecessary fluff and delving into annoying, and quite frankly degrading, romances. Not only those two but all the pivotal characters went through such believable character development, that you will find yourself attached even to the most despicable of them - not because they're handsome and an oppa but because they're human, not innocent not evil but somewhere in between, just like all of us.
I really can't think of a reason why you wouldn't want to see this drama - it's what all crime and legal dramas should aim to be, and I'm looking forward to the day I watch something that will outdo it. While some people may think it seems boring, I urge you to challenge yourself and watch the first two episodes; your brain will thank you. To me, this was a heart-racing drama that made me laugh, cry, feel disgust, and so many more emotions.
I am so excited to see what this rookie writer will bring us in the future because if it's anything like Forest of Secrets, then we'll know we have another great drama upon us.
2021 edit: Yeah, I still have not found another drama to replace Stranger as my favorite - go watch season 2 if you have not!
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If you want to watch a show that manages to take a single case and from that moment on weave through a web of tangled relationships and complicated motivations without dropping the thread once, watch this drama.
If you want to watch a show where two people have instant chemistry that isn't romantic but still sparks because they just get each other and are better for it, watch this show. The two main characters have such a satisfying rapport that doesn't need to be romantic.
That doesn't mean that other characters fall short mind you, and it's so amazing to see the arcs of the other characters, the fact that they even get them elevates this drama to the upper echelon of dramas alone.
The fact that this is this writer's first drama is astounding and I can't wait for their next project, although this one set the bar insanely high. The fact that the tension through out this drama didn't waver once and that everything concluded so satisfyingly is an amazing feat unto itself.
I might add more later, but for now this is easily one of the easiest recommendations to make. If you like a insanely well made drama about crime and mystery, drop everything and watch this. And even if those are not your jam, give this a go, I'm sure you won't regret this.
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However, despite being known as an excellent kid explorer, Dora wasn’t the brightest bulb in the closet. Every episode went something quite like this; Dora would stand in front of, say, an apple tree and the treasure that she sought after would be an apple. So in order to find that apple, Dora would first cluelessly look to one side then the other, then she’d look all over all the while conveniently missing the tree located right behind her. After a good ten minutes of looking, when Dora still wouldn’t find the darned apple, the creators of the show would decide to give her a hint.
The hint went something like this: “Dora, if you look exactly behind yourself, you’ll find something. Now, we are not telling what it is, since this is only a hint but I think you should look behind you and see what you find.” For further help, a huge green arrow would point towards the apple on the tree. That was when Dora would finally have a light bulb moment and discover the goal of her expedition. Feeling mighty proud of her feat, she would then ask the viewers whether they too were able to find the apple or not.
Even as a child, I was about ready to combust at this point, for I had found the mighty apple the moment the tree came into the view. However, despite all its flaws it was still one of my favorite cartoons because it made me feel so clever. I was smarter than Dora. The world was a good place. What could possibly go wrong?
Except, when the same Dora-style execution is done in Contemporary Crime Shows, things do actually go wrong. This is exactly one of the reasons why people love “Stranger” so much. Stranger doesn’t come with the usual BS. It doesn’t assume that its viewers are mentally impaired baboons who can’t put two and two together. It actually respects the audience by considering them smart enough to follow the plot. There is no spoon feeding here, nor does a big ass green arrow point towards every idiotic discovery ever made. Instead, it’s a drama with an intelligent script that demands your full attention.
Every scene and every character has a reason for existing. With brilliant direction and almost no plot-holes the drama not only succeeds in captivating the audience, rather it also gives them space to really think about all that is happening.
For a lot of actors a “cold and emotionless” role is the gateway for slacking. They leave all their acting skills in the backseat and decide that posing like a cringey af model throughout the show is the way to go. Jo Seung Woo with his “Prosecutor Hwang Shi Mwok” explains that kids, it is indeed not the way to go.
For a character that is supposed to be expressionless and indifferent to everything and anything, Seung Woo sure did put out the acting of the century. While his face remains carefully blank at all times, there are slight nuances in his expression that highlight the emotional development Shi Mwok experiences throughout the episodes. A slight twitch of the brow to show frustration, relaxation of the facial muscles to show ease and the gorgeous, beautiful and rare smile to show happiness. Simply put, Shi Mwok is a delight to watch. Without showing, he still shows so much that by the first half of the drama, the viewers have already formed a deep connection with him.
A lot of people thought that the whole “brain surgery” plot-line was unnecessary, however, I think it was wholly essential in order for Shi Mwok to become who he was. He was a prosecutor who was able to observe every crime scene with a cold detachment that is unachievable for a normal person. And the show facilitated the fact by backing it up with a genuine reason instead of feeding the viewers some bogus and over-dramatic crap.For all those people who have seen God’s Gift, I know that Seung Woo shocked your pants off. The utter versatility of the actor cannot be described in words. He was a completely different person in this show, simply unrecognizable and for that, he has all of my respect.
I think one of the most endearing characters in the show was our female lead Han Yeo Jin. Bae Do Na held her own in terms of acting and the amount of chill that her character had was unlimited. She was such a genuinely cool person. Relentless, strong and quirky. Even though she won against bad people numerous of times, there was never any pomposity in her, for to her, even the wins felt like failures because they were against her own people. You can see how her heart hurt at the name of injustice and how fully determined she was to stand against it. No matter the consequences. She was the kind of fearless cop that is every ordinary citizen’s dream and every corrupt person in power’s nightmare.
So considering how exquisite these two were individually, it’s no surprise that they were unbeatable together. Lieutenant Han and Prosecutor Hwang: The ultimate dynamic duo that made the baddies shiver in their boots. The chemistry between them was excellent; easily topping many romances. They were the kind of comrades that can lean on each other in time of need, rely on the other in time of action and above all, understand each other all the time. As weird Shi Mwok was, Lieutenant Han just seemed to get him and he in turn respected and shared his secrets with her.
With best friends like these, who needs romance?
All of the other side characters came with their own quirks. They had their own story, their own motives behind actions that appeared to be ruthless and their own flaws and weaknesses. Nobody was completely good or completely bad; rather they were all wholly mortal.
Like other crime shows, the show did not make use of convenient plot-lines or shock value. There weren’t any WTF moments or nerve-wracking cliff hangers, rather there was a constant under-current of gravity that kept the viewers rooted to their spot.
This is the kind of drama that will warm your heart, fill you with sadness at the world’s corruption and leave you with the sweet hope that not all people are wicked, that there is still some good left and that little bit of goodness might just be able to overcome the evil.
I know that I should just end this review here but I need to be completely honest. As as you can clearly see, I have nothing but good things to say about this show. However, it doesn't mean that I am going to give it a perfect rating like many others because despite all of its beauty there were times where I wanted something more. I wanted to know why Mwok Shi was so relentless on eradicating all corruption. If he couldn't feel anything, where did all his righteousness sprout from? I wanted to know more about Lieutenant Han's background. Why was she always so alone?
Even though the whole drama came with a certain amount of simplicity and subtle intelligence, the last few episodes did at moments take on a fairy-tale touch. The conclusion was everything that you could've wanted, it was the perfect ending. However, considering the somber tone of the show, personally I expected something more gritty and raw.
So while this was one of the more amazing shows I have watched, I will not claim that "This was the best Korean drama ever made".
That being said, with some of the best dialogues and a spot-less execution, this drama is definitely not one to be missed. Which is why I wholeheartedly recommend it to every crime/thriller fan out there.Enjoy!
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The show does drag out the denouement, with more moralizing speeches than I’d prefer. It’s also not a ringing endorsement of the idea that people can change. It is however, a lovely example of how good writing, acting and directing can bring an old genre to vibrant, urgent life.
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A Perfect Ten! No Weakness At All In Term of Quality, Acting & Production Values
I never give any drama a perfect 10 but this drama 100% deserved it.This drama is seriously amazing. I have watch like gazillion of Kdramas for the past 15 years and I can safely said that the writing for this drama is the best that ever comes out from Korea. It is intelligent, excellently written and the clever details is just mind blowing. The writer is great at constructing plot without leaving any minor details. The script is tight, solid, complicated without plot holes and full of characters with great depth and personalities without including any questionable or dumb plot in its storyline. I have high expectation before watching the show but this drama truly exceeded my already high expectations. The writers made everyone, including the main character as the possible suspects and yet, she is still able to surprise us with the ending.
I feel like no other investigation dramas can hold a candle to this other than Signal. Other law or investigation dramas always bother me with the inaccurate technical practices and details but this drama have none of those and it didn't insult you intelligent either. It's simply a brilliant cat & mouse chase drama where both the good and the bad guys are clever.
SECRET FOREST IS PERFECT IN QUALITY SENSE -- I dont even know it is possible until I watch this drama. There's nothing to complain about the script, plot, directing and acting as it is that good.
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Forest of Secrets has a quite typical “Who did it?” story, but it is marvelously told. Just like our main character, it starts off emotionless. However, somewhere along the path, it gains some small rays of light that, slowly but surely, pierce the darkness that overwhelms the show. It has no elements of romance or comedy to make some moments more enjoyable and it certainly doesn’t need them. The drama, from the beginning, until the very end, screams “crime” and “corruption”. At times it might seem slow, but it has this steady pace that gives a unique feel to it. It is packed with details, which are easy to omit, but if you look back at it you will see that there is much more to this show than it initially meets the eye. The attention that was given to all the small things makes you not lose focus of the story, but also the way it is composed makes you look at all the elements of the show, so that you don’t miss a single thing. It is not just a regular crime/investigation drama where you just can’t wait until the last episode for the killer to be caught. Quite the opposite, this show keeps you occupied throughout its entirety, so that you can clearly understand everything that is happening.
One of the things that I especially enjoyed is the fact that this show is unusually realistic. All the characters, both the heroes and the villains act as people would act in the real world. There is no superhero-type of behavior where someone does something that would never be done in reality, or a character who can easily outsmart everybody else. It is very down to earth, the solving of the cases is systematic, carefully planned, there are no sudden jumps made by long shot conclusions that are just there to speed up the story.
Now for the characters. They are, undoubtedly, the true gems of this drama. Everybody fits his or her role perfectly, there is not a single miscast. It makes you see only the character, and not the actor. All the characters are given a very human touch, the heroes as well as the villains. Even though our main protagonist is, for the most part, emotionless, he is not robot-like, and steadily develops throughout the story. The villains are given a lot of depth as well, which makes us even sympathize with them at moments. However, the most important aspect of all, that truly makes them all human, were their mistakes. Every single character made a mistake at some point in the show, which made this drama feel that much more real. And to top it all off, the interactions and dialogues between the two leads were simply amazing. It is what made this show produce some truly heart-warming moments, in all of its coldness. Lieutenant Han gave Prosecutor Hwang, our “emotionless” hero, a bit of heart.
The setting of the show was ideal. The dark scenes, in a usually crowded, but in the show mostly empty city, kept the thrill and the mystery present at every moment. The gloomy atmosphere gave a special chill that made everything even more dramatic. The closed, office scenes perfectly portrayed the cage which the heroes were trying to break through while searching for the culprit. Places such as the homes of the characters spoke for themselves, as they gave a huge insight into who they were, and what they were like, producing superb results. Even though it is a thriller/crime drama, it is very aesthetically pleasing, and enjoyable to watch. The cinematography is beautiful, like a fine piece of art, everything is where it should be.
I could go on and on for days talking about this show, but to sum it all up… this show was poetic. All other dramas I have seen cannot even compare to it. Through its complex characters, and sometimes painful to watch scenes, this seemingly emotionless drama, takes you on a wild roller coaster, which in the end leaves you speechless and puts a small smile on your face, just like it did to our beloved Hwang Shi Mok.
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Unpopular opinion but honest...
Ok, here is my unpopular opinion. After years of people recommending this drama, and so many perfect reviews, and a brand new season, and a pandemic, I decided to finally watch Stranger, and honestly, I was bored. I kept waiting to get sucked into the story and it never happened. I kept wanting to root for the blank-faced Hwang Shi Mok, but I was as indifferent to him as he looked. Bae Doo Na as Han Yeo Jin was the only character I really liked a lot, and I did think the Lieutenant and Prosecutor duo had some great moments together, but as for the story - mostly I was very VERY bored.I admit that I don't have much interest in political crime dramas. I prefer thrillers, and this is definitely more crime drama than thriller. It starts off with a thriller vibe, but the pace was very slow and even tedious to me at times. There are several characters who are duplicitous, which is the main focus of this story, but not as much actual action and suspense. Most of this drama is conversations, arguments, eavesdropping, thinking aloud... LOTS of thinking aloud... I consider myself to be pretty analytical, but the plot didn't grab me enough to justify dwelling on the details. There are twists, but nothing truly surprising. There was nothing that made me excited to tune in to the next episode besides mild curiosity.
This is the kind of drama where you really have to love the characters to like it, and I found most of them to be pretty forgettable. The main character, who should have been the most interesting considering his back story, was too flat. I can't necessarily blame any performance, the acting isn't the issue, it's just that I had a hard time caring about any of them based on the plot. One character, Shin Hye Sun as Young Eun Soo, seemed completely unreasonable to me and I just couldn't sympathize. Other characters started to feel one-note, with lots of corrupt, greedy, and ambitious tropes.
Would I watch this again? Clearly not. I was tempted to watch this mostly in preparation for the 2nd Stranger season, but I will most likely pass on that one too. Well, maybe I'll give episode one a chance... but just out of more mild curiosity.
Overall, if you are not excited by the story early on don't expect it to be more exciting later. Most of the action is in the very beginning and the very end. I did become more interested around episode 14 and that's a long time to watch and wait for some excitement. To be honest, I should have dropped this and left it at that but with so many amazing reviews I was tempted to see if it would all be worth it in the end. The end is well done in some ways, and everything does come together, but for me, it wasn't worth completing. I wanted to add my opinion just in case anyone has a similar feeling while watching and is on the fence. The payoff wasn't big enough for me to justify recommending this. The most disappointing part is how they barely go into the main character's backstory, which would have been far more interesting than just watching him be slightly smarter than everyone with a mostly emotionless face, and maybe would have made him less boring to me. I won't say it's overrated, but it's certainly not for everyone. If corruption dramas are what you love you will probably like this way more than I did. If you find yourself wondering if there's romance... you probably want to skip this one. The political thriller shows I like are more like "House of Cards", but If watching someone solve a jumbo puzzle for 16 hrs sounds like a good time, you're in luck, because that's what watching this felt like to me.
Part of me wonders if high expectations made me dislike it more, but that's also what kept me from dropping it for good.
This isn't my first time not liking a beloved drama, so I'm fine being one of the less impressed few.
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