A mix of everything
It had some amazing points, but there were also some that could have been better. But good things first – the acting in general was pretty solid, the action and training scenes were jaw-dropping and incredibly well executed, the dreams and visions were nicely set apart from the reality, which made the story a bit easier to follow. They also did a really good job incorporating different genres and themes into a pretty logical plot line.However, I did feel like a lot of time was wasted on all those crimes that the team investigated, many of which were kind of related to one of the main plots, but not enough to really make them worth our time. I would prefer there to be one really big case that would have connected to the other main plot. It would have made more sense, and it would have allowed a more solid connection between everything that has happened.
Phaya & Tharn: I loved them in the first episode – the rivalry, the tension, the connection. The two are quite similar. They are both stubborn, tend to act without thinking, hate having others worry about them while being very protective of their loved ones, have a very solid moral compass… I did Phaya to be a bit more hot-headed, but Tharn was not far behind him either. I do think there are certain things about their story that I wish wouldn’t have happened. There were a few slaps, which have no place in a relationship nor between friends or colleagues. Another thing that bothered me was the lack of trust between the two. It made me confused why Tharn has so little trust in Phaya, even knowing the two are connected, while blindly trusting others. Well, Phaya didn’t really trust him either, he kept a lot of secrets. Maybe that goes hand in hand, you get what you give. Billy and Babe had great chemistry though, and they did amazingly in their roles.
I really liked their team and the dynamics between them. Khem and Thongthai were kind of cute together, even if I wasn’t always sure if the two were actually a thing or not. Yai is a lot of fun too, and he is a good friend. Even with his occasionally slightly crazy ideas. The inspector was interesting, but I didn’t really understand his thought process most of the time.
Doc Chalothon was there, I guess. I just wish his character was a bit more involved with the investigation part of the plot. He did pop up here and there, but he wasn’t nearly as present as I hoped he would be. I did find him creepy from the moment he appeared, so Heng did a great job with this role.
Now, as for a few other not so great things. I did find their way of investigating things a little like playing pretend. There were just a lot of things that didn’t make much sense, especially in relation to keeping the details of the investigations private from the general public.
But the major setback was the ending. I found it extremely anticlimactic. I think they should have concluded the investigation in one episode and the naga in another. They concluded them in the same episode, which made one of the conclusions feel very rushed and lazy, and maybe illogical as well. I feel like we were robbed of a scene we were all waiting for.
All in all, it was a good watch but it could use a few tweaks.
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Great story, poor execution
I like the overarching story and theme of this romance, the lore was really cool and new to me.Main gripes were:
1. Character writing - Specifically Tharn, was written terribly. For someone who's been living with visions for the past how many years and grew up with an Abott that has been guiding him and giving him info on how to protect himself in the future, he never connects the dots about who he is and what he needs to do. Tharn was honestly extremely frustrating to watch.
2. Plot is hella choppy - After knowing the story of Tharn and Phaya's past, I don't understand why the Abott keeps telling Tharn that he needs to right the wrongs of his past life...like Pharn didn't do anyone wrong, whytf is he the one receiving bad karma now??? We all know the one that should have bad karma is 'Slowmotion', so I don't understand why Phaya was the one getting the short end of the stick. Also, I know the side characters are just side characters but towards the ending they just stopped trying with some of the characters and it was unfortunate.
3. Music - The psychedelic type beat that kept playing at every intimate scene was atrocious. Omg, Ep 12 almost redeemed it but then the sound came back and I did something unimaginable during an intimate scene in BL...I skipped! 😱😔.
I did enjoy some things: like the lore was interesting, I liked the relationships between the 5 friends, family dynamics between Phaya and his grandma and sister and Tharn and his grandma, I appreciated that there were no jealous ex tropes, and the comedic moments were funny.
As for the romance, I don't think I got to see enough of it so it felt very underwhelming to me. There was just way too much happening with the police cases and Tharn trying to save Phaya everytime and them not being on the same page most of the time. While we did have sex scenes and such, the romance aspect didn't feel fleshed out so I wasn't really gagging at the chemistry between the leads too.
The ending being extremely anticlimactic also did not help matters. Overall, I'm a bit dissapointed with the series, it was frustrating for the most part because I felt Tharn was not utilizing the information he had to his and Phaya's advantage and that affected how connected I felt with their relationship, however the lore is interesting, chemistry between the leads is good and it's a funny show so there's definitely still something to enjoy and like if you want to give the series a watch.
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A Brilliantly Scripted Thriller
I grew up on a stable diet of Indian mythological (Ramayana & Mahabharata), both have been remade again & again with different casting. The central character that remains at the heart of both mythologies is Lord Vishnu (both Lord Ram & Lord Krishna are his reincarnations). So, when the trailer for “The Sign” was released, I was intrigued; because it had two main characters based on Indian mythology. I was surprised to say the least; Garuda is the vahana/vehicle of Lord Vishnu while Sheshanaga is his mount. Although we know about the enmity between Garuda and Nagas, their story was never properly described/depicted beyond the fact that they both serve Lord Vishnu. So, to see two divine figures from the Indian mythology in a Thai drama was quite riveting. It was only after the show started that I realised that Thais have their own myths about Garuda & Nagas. The show is hugely based in modern era, but is fantasy drama based on the age long enmity between the two demigods. In Buddhism, Garudas are enormous predatory birds with intelligence and social organisation. The Garudas have kings and cities, and some of them have the magical power of changing into human form; as can be witnessed with Phaya’s characterization. The Garuda are enemies to the nāga, a race of intelligent serpent- or dragon-like beings, whom they hunt. Nagas are believed to live in either water bodies or in caves and have different clans; as witnessed by their attire. Tharn is mostly shown wearing green clothes, which depict his noble status while Chalothorn is show wearing black clothes which signify the fact that he is a royal. “The Sign” cleverly combines these age-old mythologies with the concept of reincarnation to script a thriller that is incomparable to most modern dramas in the BL world.Read the complete article here-
https://the-bl-xpress.com/2024/05/25/the-sign-series-review-ep-3-to-12/
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L'année du dragon serait-elle propice à l'inspiration et au fantastique ?
Exploiter un univers fantastique est toujours une idée intéressante. En revanche, surexploiter un univers l’est rarement. Fort heureusement, The Sign choisit la première approche pour offrir un drama excitant sur plus de sa première moitié afin de faiblir sur les derniers épisodes. Malgré tout, 2023 et début 2024 semblent être le signe de nouveauté pour le BL thaïlandais. Des productions différentes avec des intrigues originales et inspirantes. Mais aussi de nouveaux visages, contrant ainsi une industrie rôdée aux BL scolaires et aux couples qui peinent à se renouveler, aussi sympathiques qu’ils puissent être.Il ne faut pas attendre longtemps avant de plonger dans le bain et de découvrir la dynamique des personnages. Tharn et Phaya se regardent en chiens de faïence, mais ils sont aussi capables de faire équipe et de se serrer les coudes. Yai (Gap Jakarin Puribhat), Khem (Tack Phongsakorn Sukiang) et Thongthai (Poom Nuttapart Tuntistinchai) viennent renforcer la camaraderie au fil des épisodes, tandis que l’intrigue se tisse autour d’eux. De plus, pas de super-héros ou d’enquêteurs surdoués, chacun est logé à la même enseigne et participe à l’enquête. Cela permet à toute l’équipe d’avoir son moment et son impact sur cette dernière. Tout comme le capitaine Akk (Ak Akarat Nimitchai) et le lieutenant Singh (Surprise Pittikorn Siripornsawan) qui offrent un cadre pour chacun.
La relation de Tharn et Phaya est conjointement liée au reste de l’intrigue. Pour cette raison, c’est à la fois palpitant, plein de tension avec une bonne dose d’anticipation. Cependant, l’utilité réelle de Chalathon (Heng Asavarid Pinitkanjanapun) reste encore un mystère. Était-il vraiment un antagoniste ou un simple élément perturbateur ? Par ailleurs, il est dommage de constater que les scènes intimes n’ont qu’un seul but : satisfaire une partie de l’audience. Les baisers sont magnifiques et, certes, voir Billy torse nu est un spectacle exquis, mais dépourvu d’un réel enjeu. Pourtant, il y avait un grand potentiel quant à l’idée qu’un Naga et un Garuda tombent amoureux l’un de l’autre et bravent les interdits.
Malheureusement, si la première grande moitié est entraînante, les trois derniers épisodes s’épuisent. Dont l’épisode final fortement discutable – et même décevant sur certains points avec un arrière-goût bâclé. La scène post-générique semble annoncer une suite. Pourquoi pas ?
Au-delà de ses défauts, The Sign est un drama entraînant avec un univers riche et intelligemment distillé qui n’abuse pas du fantastique pour autant. Les visions de Tharn ne deviennent jamais une facilité dans l’intrigue. Le flirt et le charme du couple principal fait son effet. L’action est bien menée et suit son rythme – bien qu’on puisse ne pas apprécier certaines directions de l’intrigue. La photographie est superbe ainsi que l’audio. De plus, les CGI sont honnêtes et certains plans sont excellents.
D'ailleurs, à ce sujet quelqu'un a mentionné qu'il faudrait « prendre des notes sur GoT » concernant les CGI. Le budget d'un seul épisode de GoT est environ de 15 millions de dollars pour le plus « raisonnable », soit ~ 539 millions de baht. Pour être honnête, je n'ai aucune idée du coût de production en Thaïlande et trouver des chiffres sourcées n'est pas si simple. Cependant, je ne pense pas que le budget de The Sign puisse être comparé à celui de GoT. Les CGI coûtent une blinde, tout le monde ne peut pas en assumer le coût. J'adorerai que ce soit le cas parce que même si les deux dernières saisons sont des purges, la DA de GoT est exceptionnelle. Mais non, tout le monde ne peut pas s'asseoir à la même table que les CGI de GoT. Et honnêtement, elles ne sont pas mauvaises. Allez donc voir un film de monstres chinois, vous allez vite faire la différence (et je dis ça en étant adoratrice des films de monstres).
En bref, The Sign est une proposition exceptionnelle et audacieuse. C'est un drama imparfait qui parvient à passer au-delà grâce à la dynamique de ses personnages, sa pointe de fantastique, son folklore qui amène un vent nouveau, sa romance portée par un joli duo tout en mettant en lumière des genres qui étaient, jusqu'ici, ignorés dans les BL thaïlandais.
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Average IMO
MY OPNIONIt started off really strong, but unlike the others, it always fell more on me. It's not terrible, but not good either. It's just my opinion. The GCI omg, terribile (the last ep CGI killed me, not even a bit of effort put) 😭😭 It's pretty average. The chemistry is there tho, as you can see from the scenes🔥, they are pretty good!
The plot wasn't that good, could've been actually, but it dropped, they couldn't keep it on.
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blended several elements well but needed more trust
Overall: romance, fantasy, mystery, action, thriller and humor worked well together but I needed more trust in the relationship with the leads. Note that there are some very intense scenes. 12 episodes about an hour each. Aired on Idol Factory's YouTube Channel. Idol Factory also produced Secret Crush On You and Gap The Series.Content Warnings: murders, attempted murder, suicide, manipulation, mentions of rape and sexual assault, kidnapping, torture, violence, blood, vomiting, manhandling
What I Liked
- hooked right away at the beginning
- integrated action, thriller/mystery, fantasy, romance and a little humor (Jack & Rose comment was funny)
- sweet moments
- Yai/Sand established couple
- Tharn's supportive friends
- good dream sequences
- some GL
- NSFW scenes were well done
Room For Improvement
- the slap was not needed in episode 5 and a later episode
- I found the camerawork a little too shaky/fast during some of the action scenes
- toilet "humor"
- kind of a tourism ad in episode 3
- unrealistic elements (not talking about the fantasy things), why wouldn't the brother have gone after his main target first and then the others, not shooting when there was opportunity, discussing a case in a public cafe, stupid decisions (the allegedly best of the best managed to share 1 brain cell), how on earth they did they survive that in episode 11, why wouldn't have the doctor done something much sooner (the writers could have made up a mythology that Tharn had to be a certain age before he could be taken to that location)
- the lack of trust that Tharn had in Phaya and the absolute trust he had in another character was off putting, the writers need to show more why Tharn would have that must trust in the other character
- that's pretty awful of Tharn to put Phaya through that much pain at the end, wish they could have written this differently
Thoughts on the Finale YouTube Release Date (I didn't take off points)
- I understand that companies need to make money, but I think they could improve regarding the finale episode release (also since they sold out that Thai theater in minutes, they should have had several live showings in Thailand to increase their revenue, the audience is definitely there)
- they should have had the theater/livestream finale a few days max 1 week after the episode 11 YouTube released and then a few days max week for the YouTube release, the 3 weeks was too long
- should have been clear from the beginning that the livestream would have English subtitles
- should have had the livestream be a window of at least 6 hours for those who were sleeping during the livestream (maybe there was a rerun option added later but that wasn't well advertised)
- release on a platform like Vimeo, the Thai platform wanted a ton of personal information including passport number/drivers license, even if they could add Vimeo as an option for a rental that would be great
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A Mesmerizing Tale of Eternal Love
"The Sign" is a captivating series that masterfully intertwines elements of fantasy, mystery, and romance, ensnaring viewers from the onset. As the narrative progresses into its dramatic and intense latter half, it manages to maintain a grip on its audience with unwavering intrigue and escalating stakes.Central to the series' allure is the electric chemistry between the leads, Phaya and Tharn. Their dynamic is the pulsating heart of the narrative, radiating both tenderness and tension that is palpable. This duo is enchanting, their interactions marked by both intense sparks and profound concern for each other, setting a high bar for on-screen romantic chemistry. The love story of Billy and Babe challenges cosmic forces, presenting a romance that defies the odds and captivates the audience's imagination. Complemented by stellar acting, the chemistry between the cast, and breathtaking cinematography, "The Sign" offers a compelling viewing experience from the very beginning.
A heartfelt appreciation is extended to the production team for showcasing Thailand's rich culture, myths, and folklore with such elegance and authenticity. The depiction of these elements adds a unique depth to the story, enhancing the overall narrative and setting "The Sign" apart from other series in its genre.
At its core, "The Sign" revolves around two souls, Phaya o Sakuna (Billy Patchanon Ounsa-ard) and Tharn Wansa (Babe Tanatat Phanviriyakool), who have loved across centuries. Reincarnated and brought together at an academy for future police officers, they find themselves amidst a journey filled with visions of their pasts and a mysterious criminal investigation that tests their love.
The series shines in its action sequences and fight scenes, which are executed with precision and aesthetic grace. The integration of various genres, including action, thriller, fantasy, and romance, is seamless, offering moments of sweetness, humor, and suspense that are equally well-crafted.
The ensemble cast delivers performances that resonate deeply with the audience, with particular praise for the leads, Phaya and Tharn, whose portrayal is nothing short of stunning. Surprising is the level of acting prowess displayed by all, especially given that for some, this marks their debut.
"The Sign" stands as a testament to the dedication and hard work of its crew, evident in every frame. It's a series that deftly avoids cliché and unnecessary fan service, focusing instead on genuine storytelling, authentic chemistry, and well-choreographed action. The background music, authentic soundtrack, and visually appealing cinematography further elevate the series, making it a must-watch for fans of the BL genre and beyond.
In summary, "The Sign" is a beautifully crafted series that not only entertains but also showcases the depth of talent within its cast and crew. From the laughter and camaraderie of supporting characters to the intense love story at its center, it's a series that leaves a lasting impression, making viewers yearn for more.
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People, really?
Are we really doing this? Are we writing reviews before even the last episode dropped? Are we crazy?Well, I guess we are! Crazy in love with The Sign.
The cast is composed of eye candies, who also manage to show all those strong emotions that the plot requires them to. In short, beautiful and talented. OK, I didn't like the acting of one side character, so here you go, I'm objective, right?
The plot lets you follow a complex criminal case and learn about Thai mythology at the same time. You see Bangkok, but also venture out of the capital, which is always interesting. You follow the boys, as they their crazy training from Mr Inspector. You also get to see a modern dance performance and action painting, and oh my, what awesome action is that!
It's like if you asked the showrunners, what else are we going to have in this BL, and they simply answered "YES".
So it's a big YES from me.
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Annoyed ? Me to the core!!!!
This the 2nd bl I ever dropped and the 1st time I've ever written a review it bothered me so much. I gave the sign a 5 I really couldn't get into it I dropped at EP 9 it just was boring and annoying to me. Thanks idk if I want to date anybody because I'm afraid of them dying yet is jumping in front of knives and bullets got on my nerves. In addition the fact that Tharn had warning ⚠️ visions which he believed and wanted to protect set fine with him. yet Phaya had warning ⚠️ dreams wanting to protect but Tharn would discredit him and not believe him was so fukin stupid to me I just wanted to kick his lil azz it got on my fukin nerves I couldn't finish it. the story was the only reason I gave it a high score I was interested in finding out everything but it bothered me so much I just couldn't go further in trying to force myself to watch it or like it.Esta resenha foi útil para você?
Great series!
For me all 10 point out of 10, because BillyBabe chemystry and the plot are fresh.Combining all the gendre in one story is not easy, plus this is something new in Thai bl series, and also we're getting pampered CG. The fact that Babe is a new actor, he's new in the acting, making + grades because acting him is so good.
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action/fantasy bl with fire chemistry ?
First of all, the fact that Saint is the producer blew my mind a little bit, but lets get into it.This story has everything-- our leads are new recruits in a special investigation unit, they train together and hunt down criminals, the murder mystery alone keeps your interest pretty well, but there's so much more. The two MLs are linked by destiny, they have a past that goes much farther back than they know, the fantasy element of this show is pretty good, I love a good lore. The merging of these two aspects of the story, or rather lack thereof, is the only thing that had me kind of disappointed. They invested so much time and energy into building up both the story of their past lives and the story of this big wig criminal that they have to hunt down, I expected the stories to be somehow linked. But it was kind of a crime fighting by day, fantasy love dtory by night type of feel, with a bit of both in some scenes. It was great at first but towards the end it started to feel like they were trying too hard.
Im not sure who threw this cast together, but it was beautifully done, theyre all well written characters played by good actors with fantastic chemistry. The tension between our two MLs gives you butterflies, Phaya and Tharn are both lovable in their own ways, I love love love their chemistry and can't wait to see their relationship develop even more. I love our side characters relationships too, wish we had seen more!
High quality everything, rarely do we see good storyline, good acting, and good graphics all in one BL, so the fact that we have all 3 in one, recipe for success right there. These aren't short episodes either, these are hour + long episodes packed with content, you feel like you just watched a short movie. Unfortunately, toward the end it started to feel a little more dramatic, the length of the episodes seemed to drag on a bit.
The ending was happy, but felt a little ?????
I'm not sure how to explain, I just felt like, oh, okay, that was it?
Part of me wonders if they started to lose it towards the end because they got such good feedback that they started to think they'd get a season 2 and wanted to save some of the plot twists for S2, which is why they ended it the way they did. All in all it was a great show, the ending wasn't bad, just didn't match the energy of the rest of the show in my opinion. I'll be excited to hear if there's a season 2!!!
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Not the masterpiece that everyone is talking about...
After PitBabe the Series, I've been had once again by the rating and the praise that I've read about the series. However, once again, I'm feeling disconnected with all the people praising those two series because I don't find them really enjoyable to watch (but to be fair to The Sign, PitBabe was way worse!).I'll be totally honest, this was not a bad series. But it is far from the masterpiece that everyone on the net is saying it is. There are a lot of flaws that I can't ignore as they were pretty big to fully enjoy the story.
So, I'm going to talk about the things that I liked first:
- the CGI (and the mythology plot). I was really impressed with the shot in episode 1 where Phaya is almost drowning and he sees the Naga and the woman trying to save him. It was really impressive and I was hopeful about the quality of the show. Unfortunately, the mythology part of the story was put aside very rapidly but everytime Phaya was stuck in his "dreams", the CGI was very good. Apart for the fights between the Naga and Garuda and sometimes the image was too blured that my eyes started to hurt but I'll still put that as a like.
- Billy. I'm not really a fan of his work (I hated and dropped Secret Crush on You and have only seen War of Y that I liked) but I'm not denying that he's a good actor and he knows how to deliver emotions (contrary to his partner...) - even though, it was sometimes too much but it's undeniably the director's fault and not his because he was asked to act that way.
- Doctor Chalothon. The best thing in this series (with maybe Lieutenant Akk). I wanted to punch him in the face so many times but, because he was supposed to be the villain (or one of them), he did it perfectly.
I can't thing of any other things that I liked so I'm going to move on with the things that I didn't like (and there are more!):
- Tharn / Babe. I don't hate the actor as I disliked Charlie's actor in PitBabe but we have to admit that he only has one expression throughout the series (except when he tries to cry). I wasn't moved by his delivery and I'm pretty sure that it's also because his character was badly written. Despite being the hero of the story, Tharn is not a good character: he is dumb and, even though, I could believe he loved Phaya at the beginning of the series, I was not so sure about it from the middle until the end. The guy believes in his fate and in the dreams that Phaya is experiencing (he also has visions of the future). He believes Phaya when he tells him about their past lives and that there's a man that wants to separate them (and he's actually dumb not to immediately think about the doc when the guy is mentionned but not named - but I can excuse him for not thinking about him). However, I can't excuse him for not believing Phaya when he finally tells him that the guy he was talking about earlier was the doc and that he even accuse him to just be jealous of him. I'll be honest, if I was Phaya at this very moment, I would have told him to f**k off. Especially because, at the beginning of the series, when Phaya is angry at him because he thinks Tharn told the doc about his dreams, Tharn says that he would talk to the doc about it but he never does!! Also - I was so shocked about that -, he didn't even react when the doc openly confronted Phaya in front of everybody and openly said that his behaviour and traits were those of a mentally ill person (or something like that). And the very end of the series confirmed my suspicions about him not loving Phaya as he came back ONE YEAR LATER and the only excuse he had was that he felt bad for Chalothon, like WTF!!! The guy prefers to stay with the guy that almost killed his supposed lover several times and that blackmailed him to kill his loved ones instead of trying to flee and go back to the one he's supposed to love. That was ridiculous...
- the fight scenes and the whole Montree plot. For a seven-month special training, I found that the guys were sometimes easily at a disadvantage in a fight against someone sometimes not specially trained and not even that muscular... You're not going to tell me that the forensic guy that were working with them at the beginning can fight both Tharn and Phaya and make them difficult to catch him, I won't believe it. And yet, it happened... Also, the scriptwriters decided to leave the mythology plot aside to focus on Tharn's father's death and I couldn't care less. I thought at the beginning that it was linked to his past life as the characters around him and even himself constantly repeated that he was cursed and every person that he loved was condemned but it had nothing to do with that. They are two different stories that they tried to link without success... Also, I'm curious to know who is the person that Yai was talking about and that supposedly died because Tharn loved them because I don't think he was talking about Tharn's parents at this moment so I'm still waiting for an answer...
- the abbot and Tharn's grandmother. A lot of people on YT wrote in the comments that the abbot deserved his own series because he was protecting Tharn so much and so on. But... if the abbot wasn't there, it would have been the same... He did nothing the whole time while he knew who was after Tharn! He even asked Phaya to bring Tharn to him on the day this whole mess was supposed to end but he did nothing to protect Tharn at all!!! And I would even blame the grandmother as she knew that the doc was preying on her own grandson and was not even human... I know that if they told him the truth earlier, there wouldn't be a story but make it make sense if you want your audience not to be disturb as the fact that the closest persons to Tharn were the ones that let him be in danger his whole life.
- the NC scenes. I don't really mind s*x scenes in general but I felt like they were making them just for the sake of it and I hate that kind of thinking. Phaya just woke up after almost being dead, he's not even recovered, and the only thing that he does is to go to Tharn's flat and sleep with him. What a great mind... Also, the "good bye" s*x scene they have before Tharn disappears was so freaking long that I had to skip most of it. It lasted more than 6 minutes and I wouldn't have complained that much if it was animated but nothing happened, it was boring!! They were simply kissing gently for 1 or 2 minutes before changing position... Also, I know they have to censor some of the scenes but instead of blurring the a**es of the actors, they could've just not shot below the waist because the blur was a bit disturbing...
- the second part of the series. The first part was mostly watchable for me to be kept interested but from episode 7 or 8, I started watching it with my phone on the side which is a good indication that the series is not entertaining enough.
- the delay of the last episode. The last episode was supposed to be out on the 11th and it was really annoying to wait another two weeks to watch the series...
As a whole, I don't particularly recommend the series, but I'm not saying you shouldn't watch it either. You probably will like it like 99% of the people who watched it, I feel... It is simply not my cup of tea.
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