Bater Morder Amar (2023)

love triangle, trigger warnings all round, just a mess of a "show"

A Make It Right meets Degrassi Jr BL short form soap opera with no real ending, featuring chaos boys, chaos script, chaos everything. I would like it known that my sexual identity is chili henceforth. (My pronouns are MaxTul & sometimes Phi.) Look, this is an absurd show. We got BDSM 101, a lesson on how to use a condom properly AND and example of why the closet is both necessary and damaging? I mean I applaud their educational endeavors but BL: The After School Special? Really, that’s what we signed up for? In the end a total mess (they too young to call it a hot mess). I don’t know what it was and neither did it.

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Worth the time

This is the first time I am writing a review, because the ones chosen to be highlighted are really amateurish. I have seen tons of shows, movies from all over the world and have been binged on BLs for last few months to the point I have been caught up with everything done in last 4yrs. So is hard to be surprised, and this show managed to keep me entertained and very sorry it only has 6 episodes. I need second season soon, please.
While it has a lot of things to improve on, the story is somewhat fresh for Thai BLs, it moves fast and the characters are charismatic. You feel for them, and after the many school BLs over the last few years - one more unrealistic than the other - it comes as a surprise.
Give it a try, it is worth it.

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No doubt about it- this series is a hot mess. Yet I was still entertained

Okay, let me start off by saying- I understand why a lot of people don't like this series. Heck, after I watched episode 5, I honestly didn't know what the bejeezus that was. But the last episode- it swayed my mind a bit. Let me also say that I am not saying that this series is one of the best out there (because, it's not). But it was able to keep my attention for the majority of the episodes unlike another series where so far 2 out of 18 was able to keep my attention (cough cough- HIStory5- cough cough).

Story- 6/10
Here's the thing- the story is a hot mess. We have 6 episodes to explore three 'couples'. Couples are in quotations because one of them- Matteo and Shokun- are basically the only couple in this whole series. Although I still don't know how long they would last as Matteo just basically gave up a big part of him (BDSM) for his love for Shokun.

We know that King likes Burger as more than friends but Burger likes King as only friends. I honestly don't know what thier end result because of how choppy the final episode was as it was not the uncut version.

Saint and Hida (the step brothers) didn't even really developed as Saint is still with his girlfriend Fern at the end. So...yeah. And Fern and Saint's storyline is just....yeah.

And then Ken and Pimtha...they're just there to be annoying and evil, I guess?

The series is confusing because a lot of people would think that it's a BL- which somehow turned into a mystery (giving off Riverdale Season 1 or PLL vibes). But this is not the case as I did see this statement if it was not in the 0 episode , it was on Reddit that stated that this series is NOT a BL series, but an LGBT+ production...with morecreal life coming of age and sexual exploration story line, and more in a social portray way. With the intention of educating the Thai society about such issues, and of re-opening the debate on sexual education and understanding that started years ago with HORMONES The Series in 2013-2015. Was this executed properly to show this? Honestly, I don't think so. But the mustery part, which I wasn't even invested in when I started this series, is the only reason why I am giving this hot mess of a storyline a 6.

Acting/ Cast-7/10
You know what? I may be in the minority but I found the main actors acting was actually passable for this being thier first roles. So, because of that, I will give them a 7.

Music-7.5/10
While the misic is sounding like a lot of auto-tune was used, I still found it cute and catchy. At the beginning from episodes 2 to 6, I would have actually hummed along with it. As such, I'm giving it a 7.5.

Rewatch Valu- 6/10
Let's be real. It is choppy if you are watching this series and don't have access to the uncut version. The storyline does not flow properly and it has left people hella confused. But all in all, what I was able to understand is what will make me give this a 6.

Overall-6.5/10
Overall I give this series a 6.5. I really won't recommend this series to anyone because as I have stated, it is choppy and does not flow properly which can be peet peeves for people. Also, they might be very dissapointed thinking that it's a BL series and that if not all the majority of the 'couples' end up together. When in fact only one does.

Will I be one of the few to actually want to watch a season 2? Shockingly- yes. I'm not that eager to see it but I do want to see how the story unfolds for the majority of the characters as we the viewers are just left hanging qithout any answers.

P.S.- if they want to continue with this murder mystery tag and want another victim- I day off the teacher/ principal. I don't need that kind of negativity in a series.

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I actually liked it. However...

Okay, I guess I'm the odd man out. Despite its many flaws, I enjoyed it. Here are my pros and cons:

PROS

DIFFERENT. They actually went there, exploring BDSM with young guys. It happens, folks. And, while many viewers were horrified by the young ages of the actors, let's remember that BurgerKing was just a cute little non-story, and SaintHida just involved a crush of one kid on his non-blood related stepbrother. It was all quite vanilla, there was nothing sordid involved with any of them. The BDSM triangle involved only the older actors, and even that wasn't particularly explicit.

ACTING. Okay, they weren't all good. But some were. The two nasty girlfriends did a great job, Art was a welcome addition, the veteran actors were good, and the boys did pretty well for being rookies. The awful trans teacher made us all hate her, so kudos to her!

CONS

STORY. That was the most convoluted mess I've seen in a long time. None of the couples had any connection with each other, other than being friends on some level, I guess. And who died?

ENDING. Big points off for ending with a "To be continued." We all know that many promises of a Season 2 never happen in BL (My Engineer, etc.), and it's unlikely that this series will get the 1 million supporters to make it happen. And we're left with nothing but questions. Unacceptable and shame on the producers.

I'm giving it a 6.5.

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OOF GOSHH...

Very honestly speaking, this show was confusing as hell! I was very intrigued at first but then the story got so confusing, it had several different levels going all together it was as if I skipped scenes like I missed some episodes?? And for sure if this story were mainly focused on King and Burger I would have enjoyed it more, as well as I thought the starting bit of the story of similar to My Love Mix Up (Keita Hatsukoi), though I could still bear that, but.. there was stuff like bdsm so if u don't like that PLS DONT WATCH, also I was confused with the genre, I could not tell if it was a bl or a straight up murder mystery at one point (which, unfortunately, was badly made) I hope season 2 will be better ??

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HEAR ME OUT...

Ok, hear me out, the story itself was good, I found myself enjoying the show. And I can understand some feeling icky while watching it cause fo their age (tbh, burger and king is the only underage actors here, but they dont show any kisses, nor act lustfull. Theres only 1 scene that shows them having sex, but thats only the imagination of one of the mother. Im not saying that justify how they portray sex scenes with ther age, cause I know thats hella weird, Im just saying that the show doesnt glorify sexual content nor it actively show a bunch of kid having sex) However, if you disregard their age and actually enjoy the story itself, it's not that bad. If you want to know if its really that bad of a show, I must encourage you to watch it yourself. I found myself to not hate the show. but again, maybe because I'm still underage myself and I don't subconscious romanticize sex cause Im aroace.

Pros:
Its light, cute and the cinematography is kind of pastel.

It discusses about BDSM in a way that is not glorified nor vilified. Its insinuated and act it, but everytime they do it, it leads to a conversation of how they can do it once they're age appropriate.

There's 2 couple dinamix here, 1st is between Burger and Kind, their side of story is cute, in their own, the show could be fluff, they constantly communicate and if theres misunderstanding, they talk it out constantly. They didn't have a kiss (but they had a scene of having sex, but they didnt actually have sex,it was just the motheres imagination like I talked about) which i quite like, cause they're still underage. The second is between Matteo and Shogun. Their story is also cute, but much more matured to the point that they discusses BDSM. Like the first one, they constantly communicate. I specially liked the ending part, Matteo is willing to forfeit BDSM just because he loves Gun more that BDSM. They dont promote BDSM just to be clear, not they villainies it. They were constantly told that they need to be 20+to have such an act. Which I quite like.

The basketball and the girl form the bathroom. I stan them. They weren't homophobic at all, the discussion between the basletball guys were sweet, like how being gay doesnt affect how they perceived them, they acknowledge how it's not that different to be gay to being straight. And the girl. I want to return the crown you dropped, she slayed that homophobic girl so hard.

The characters are nicely introduce, to the poitn that it feels that each episode, they had the time to shine. At first, it feels as if their story to each other aren't connected, but as we go on the show, we were introduced to how theyre interconnected.

There's no cringy moments and it doesn't have any stereotypes about gay couples.

Homophobia and discussion about homophobia is nice to have.

The story is fluff on itself, but with the Murder mystery typa mix.

Cons:
They could've not incorporated the murder mystery, and the show could be much better.

BDSM scenes and that sex secen should've not reach the final profuct, they could've deleted those scenes and innuendoes could be fine. I feel like those scene left a bad taste to the viewers, causing this to have a lower review.

Other than that, i couldn't really find anything to critique.

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Как пособие для подростков о разной любви

И так, я долго ждала запуска второго сезона, но создатели решили его пустить только после набора определенного количества подписчиков на официальном канале. Ладно, подождем выход. А пока. Изначально, не стоит это смотреть как целое произведение. Изначально лучше посмотреть все, что было за кадром и какое шло повествование и идея этого проекта. Здесь есть не нужные отвлекающие моменты, но в целом получилось хорошо. Я увидела здесь как "пособие". После каждой серии юристы и врачи давали комментарии, что и как. Что будет если вы будете хранить личное видео в телефоне, что будет если вы не зная техник, а ради любопытства начнете использовать свое тело в бдсм. Что не стоит спать со всеми - если хотите чтобы вас любили, а не использовали. Абьюз, газлайтинг, токсичность, ревность, доверие, уважение - все, все это создатели хотят показать через героев в том возрасте когда они начинают исследовать "взрослый мир". Спасибо всем участникам проекта, удивлена, что для некоторых это дебют. Особо хочу выделить БигБосса (Шокун) отличная передача нежного героя. Ну и мимика, голос. Пур (Кен). Это мой фаворит. Потрясающая игра. Я не могла оторваться от его героя и от него самого, плюс он мне очень напоминает и внешне и игрой Эма из "Чек Аут". Прям одно лицо. НьюЕйр и Джур. Ну эти двое это-то просто изюминка проекта, особенно ДЖур (Бургер) его моменты ржала до икоты. Молодцы. Еще раз скажу, что смотрела не как художественное произведение, а как пособие отношений. Каждому свое конечно и кто-то прибежит исключительно из-за жанра, а потом разочаруется не поняв ничего, но может кому-то и откликнется. Мне понравилось. Буду использовать в работе и следить за судьбой ребят.

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one of the “couples” is called BurgerKing.. that should say enough.

when i first read the synopsis before watching it, i was actually excited for it. and the first episode is somewhat decent, but what follows is an unexplainable mess. i don’t think even the actors know what the hell is going on.

it truly took EVERYTHING in me to finish it. the plot is SHIT. the chemistry? nonexistent as well. all the kinks & bdsm stuff comes off as SO cringy and just… no. why would they make this? it’s kinda embarrassing in a way.

i also have a HUGE problem with the casting. i understand wanting to make a series about kinks & bdsm.. but why cast teenagers for it? i get that “teens also have sex” but… it felt wrong to watch. one of the boys in the cast is literally 16, in a series mainly revolving around sex. i feel so bad for the actors… GET BETTER AGENTS FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST. they did the best they could with a ridiculous script and extremely awkward scenes. oof.. rough watch.

poor shogun deserves better. how does he only have shit people in his life? he gets out of a hidden relationship, where the ex would never think or care for him, to get forced into a weird playmate relationship where he’s doing things you can easily tell he’s not comfortable with. they’re kinda cute if you forget how everything between them started.

also. why was shogun so determined into getting the music club a budget.. for it to NEVER be mentioned again? it’s all so messy and inconsistent. it honestly amazes me.

overall it’s just messy, with a stupidly confusing plot & weird timelines. never recommending this. not even to my worst enemy

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The best show for the fans of Fifty Shades of Grey

Yeah, it was mostly boring, but the last 10 minutes were craaazy. The main couple was the most interesting, and (unexpectedly) the least weird. Shokun is sad all the time, poor guy, and Matteo... Well, Matteo loves BDSM. No, no.. His LIFE is BDSM. Sounds weird that this high schooler is into BDSM and his parents don't know he's got a secret room like Christian Grey? Um. Okay. The ending was kinda.. great. It wasn't boring. I don't even remember what were the previous episodes about. That speaks for itself.

My fav scene:
"Burger."
"Are you hungry?"
"No, I was with Burger."
"So you're King?"
"Yes."
"Burger.... King."
BEST DETECTIVES EVER!!!

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It's... interesting

Honestly, the murder mystery was not necessary and the half ominous feeling around throughout the series was just confusing. BurgerKing is cute, but Newyear is pretty young and the scene where he took of his shirt felt like child pornography. I liked the younger cast but it's probably just because they're my age. As I mentioned, it felt wrong having the only one in the main cast younger than me (Newyear) take off his shirt. The more explicit scenes were performed by legal adults who're older than me so I don't really care. The story is somewhat confusing but I kind of liked it. It gets a lot of hate but I enjoyed it. Not the best but good enough if you want to kill some time.

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just my opinion ( in english and Portuguese )

I liked it but not that way, I wouldn't watch it again, I'll wait for the second season to give my opinion better, because the ending is totally open and meaningless, and as you see a drama in release that the end gives that preview, the characters acted well, I was shipping the protagonist (I forgot the name), with the ex-boyfriend and with the ksksksks sadomasochism, the ex-boyfriend is a cat I fell in love but he is an idiot, I want to punch him in the face. the sadomasochist is... he's in that boring but nice way i can't exclaim, about the protagonist i really thought he would be a badboy but he kept crying ksksksks not all the time but i kept thinking, boyhe's in that boring but nice way i can't exclaim, about the protagonist i really thought he would be a badboy but he kept crying ksksksks not all the time but i kept thinking, you have two beautiful bofes that stick to one... talking about King and Burger, how beautiful they are, King is decided that's what I like, he realized he liked the Burger and went after it, I love it. The brothers, it is not, I don't know, I think it's because I got the idea that they were brothers, and yes, I know they're not related, that they're not blood brothers, but it's kind of weird, but I've seen bls of two brothers each other


eu gostei porém não daquele jeito, eu não assistiria de novo, vou espera a segunda temporada para da minha opinião melhor, porque o final é totalmente aberto e sem sentido, e como você vê um dorama em lançamento que o final dá aquela prévia, os personagens atuaram bem, eu fiquei shipando o protagonista ( Esqueci o nome ), com o ex-namorado e com o sadomasoquista skskksksks, o ex-namorado é um gato me apaixonei mas ele é um idiota, vontade de socar a cara dele. o sadomasoquista é... ele é daquele jeito chato porém legal não posso exclamar, sobre o protagonista eu realmente pensei que ele seria um badboy porém ele vivia chorando ksksksks não toda hora mas eu ficava pensando, menino para de chorar, vocês tem dois bofes lindos se gruda num... falando King e o Burger que lindo os dois, o King é decidido é disso que gosto, ele percebeu que gostava do Burger e correu atrás, amo. Os irmãos, é não tem tanta química ( Minha opinião ), não sei, acho que é porque eu fiquei com a ideia deles serem irmãos, e sim eu sei que eles não tem parentesco, que não são irmãos de sangue porém é meio estranho, mas eu já vi bls de dois irmãos se pegando, e acho que me acostumei, só tô falando que... deixa quieto ksksksks tem que assistir pra dá opinião.
Então falando do geral, não é meu bl fav
porém nada contra apenas uns defeitos

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Puede mejorarse...

me gusto, puedo haberse desarrollado mejor, pero me gusto... no es la mejor serie de la vida y espero con ansias de verdad que llegue esa segunda temporada, porque este final es muy abierto y no terminamos de resolver todo lo que se supone debía resolverse en la serie, esperare esa segunda parte para poder cerrar un ciclo con esta serie.

Es una serie muy divertida con personajes bastante peculiares, y espero con ansias poder ver la segunda temporada cando este disponible. Aunque es divertida puedo decir que puede mejorar bastante, tiene una premisa interesante pero a la hora de ejecución le ha faltado y espero que en su segunda parte haya mejoras.

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