10/10 from a non-fan of Kdramas
A white male nearing 50, married with children, is probably not the target audience of kdramas. But, I stumbled across this by death scrolling through Netflix desperately looking for anything to watch, and when I read that it was about an autistic lawyer I wanted to see if it was just another stereotypical portrayal of people sharing my condition. Yes… I’m on the spectrum, so I stuck around to see if I was being mocked. In short: quite the opposite.Now, I’m not some expert on autistic representations in media, but this is the first time that I’ve seen an autistic person portrayed as a real person with their own thoughts, hopes, dreams, and flaws. Not a one dimensional plot device, weirdo, object of pity, or some combination of these. Kudos to everyone involved in this production for their sensitive, respectful, and dignified treatment of this condition.
That out of the way, I genuinely love the show. While I have no other kdramas to compare it to, it’s easily better than 95% of what I’ve watched in the past 2 years (mostly American and British productions). The overall positivity reminds me of Ted Lasso, which is one of my all time favourite shows, and this is just as good. The acting, not just Park Eun-Bin, is fantastic. The characters are wonderful, even the very minor ones like Hairy Boss. The cinematography, and general production quality is superb. Absolutely top notch show, and it is inspiring me to look into more kdramas (what a gateway drug!)
Lastly, while I’m not really into romances, I’m a pretty sensitive guy whose in touch with his emotions, and so this show just hits me like a punch to the gut time, and time again. What an emotional experience. Many tears - joyful tears - shed. Sure, it’s manipulative, but damn do they do a good job of it.
Rewatching it now with my wife.
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I've seen a lot of negative comments...
UPDATE AFTER I FINISHED WATCHING THE DRAMAI've changed the "story" rating from 8.5 to 9.5. I really like this drama and I like the development of all characters. But there is one thing I hate. The scene where Joon Ho drove away from the hospital where reporters wouldn't let Soo Yeon, Young Woo, and Min Woo pass. It was so out of the character. The character of Joon Ho that was created in other episodes would never have done that, even under the pressure from senior.
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AFTER WATCHING 8 EPISODES
Recently, I've seen a lot of people say they had high expectations for this drama but eventually got disappointed. This happened because Woo Young Woo with her autism spectrum is shown in a very stereotypical way. In the episodes I watched, the topic of diversity among people on the autism spectrum was mentioned only once when Young Woo as a lawyer was about to defend the boy on the spectrum.
To be honest I agree that Woo Young Woo is portrayed as a little infantile and to be seen as a cute person. And it is a very stereotypical way to show a person with an autism spectrum. There are people like Woo Young Woo and we need to understand it but it would be better if the drama focused more on the diversity of people on the spectrum. There are also people in whom it is impossible to notice at first glance that they have an autism spectrum.
However, I think that this is a huge step for Korean dramas and I hope we will see a more proper representation of people on the autism spectrum in the future.
Despite all this, I'm enjoying watching this drama. It has advantages, such as people with different responses to a person on the autism spectrum. The acting is really good. I also like the relations between Woo Young Woo and Joon Ho, Soo Yeon, and Geurami. The cases and the character's involvement in them are also interesting.
I believe that enjoying this drama is nothing wrong, but you have to bear in mind that some of the things shown in it are ableist and you shouldn't pretend that they are not. However, it is important to pay attention to it and not to duplicate these ableist things and stereotypes about people with autism.
A lot depends on how we as the audience perceive what was shown in the drama.
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charming legal drama albeit with a few hiccups
I really enjoyed Extraordinary Attorney Woo. If it weren't for some of the later episodes, I would have rated this even higher.Woo Young Woo (goodness knows why her father named her that) is a girl born with autism. She has had a difficult childhood because of that, and was bullied throughout her school years, including college. As all dramas and real life have taught us, bullies really don't grow up. They're bullies in their childhood and they're bullies after growing up and they're bullies as they enter society as working adults. Young Woo graduated at the top of her class at college and in law school but she was unable to find a job because workplaces, as we know it, are discriminatory against the disabled. Since society behaves like a bully - is it any surprise that their children grew up the same way?
Skipping all of that - Young Woo's obsession with whales reminds me somewhat of Han Geo Roo (Move to Heaven) and his obsession with the aquarium and sealife. But this drama is nothing as dark as Move To Heaven. This drama is light-hearted, bright, and honestly, considering all the dramas I've watched all year, Extraordinary Attorney Woo is a good story but it is nevertheless a diamond in the rough.
Because of Young Woo's autism, her colleagues and senior mentor initially doubted her ability to perform at her job. Young Woo very quickly proved them wrong with her first case, and the story took off from there. The pacing was perfect for the first ten episodes or so. Each episode heralds a new case (towards the later half of the series each case sometimes takes two episodes) and each case comes with a soul-touching and soul-searching lesson. What made this drama such an endearing watch is not just Young Woo herself, but all the characters that made up the legal team of the Hanbada Firm. There is nothing more uplifting than having someone supportive at work, and an understanding, generous superior like Attorney Jung plus a kind colleague like Choi Soo Yeon give the drama an overall positive feel.
Joo Jong Hyuk is a very convincing actor who played the role of the office jerk, Kwon Min Woo. Mr.Kwon is small-hearted, selfish, hateful, and he discriminated against Young Woo because of BOTH her disability AND intelligence. Yes, go figure. He first complained that she's incompetent at her job because of her disability, but later he complained that she's too much of a genius. She's actually winning some sort of imaginary competition in his head. Of course, it was all because he felt threatened that he might lose his position at work to Young Woo. I have a massive complaint about the development of his romance with Choi Soo Yeon in the final quarter of the drama. The entire thing was completely unconvincing and it ruined the drama for me a little. It was as if the writer is saying, "hey, he's got his little family circumstance so we can see why he's being such a jerk so let's be lenient towards him." Honestly IDGAF if you've got a situation going on but having treated Young Woo the way he did royally pissed me off and he never really properly apologised for his actions and wrongdoing. Society is already rage-inducing the way it is, when has it ever been lenient and forgiving towards disabled and underprivileged people? But as soon as disabled people started to get a little bit of equal treatment, others rise up and cry about "favouritism" and "inequality". They're now feeling they're on the shorter end of the stick! Wow and now you want me to expense some sympathy towards a bully and a jerk like Mr. Kwon? No. I can't forgive and forget all the crap he has done to Young Woo. So I don't understand why would the writers have Soo Yeon like such a person. Dear sweet 'spring sunshine Choi Soo Yeon', whom Young Woo revealed have helped and defended her in college and law school, having to end up with a guy like this?! Nevermind, the writers tried to tone down his assholishwhatever at the final two episodes and I'm like, leopards can't change its spots overnight, okay???? Hmmmm???
The romance between Jun Ho and Young Woo is sweet and cute, but not very compelling. He fell in love with her after seeing her in a wedding dress? That's it? Or did he fall in love with her because he finds her quirky? IDK man, I love a good romance story and I'm completely open to accepting this main pairing, but honestly the writers need to make it more convincing for me. And since this is a legal drama that has a center female lead, I actually prefer the drama to move on without any romance.
There was a case that the team undertook, in which a guy volunteering at a disabled center dated one of the girls with intellectual disability and ended up sleeping with her. He was charged with rape and brought to court where he tried to argue that he was truly in love with the girl. This was a very interesting case that could address the the range of emotions disabled people feel including the emotion of love, which I thought was important in the way that could protect the disabled from being preyed upon and taken advantaged of by predators, but at the same time not to belittle the disabled's feelings and clarity of mind. I thought perhaps it could also be a stepping stone for Young Woo and Jun Ho to reflect on their relationship as a side. However, not only was the guy sent straight off to jail in the end, there was no after-thoughts by the main couple on this case. There was no appeal filed to assert that the guy truly loved the disabled girl, there was no space for viewers to think about the ramifications of that verdict on future cases where disabled people can also fall in love with other abled people. In my opinion, that episode was a complete missed opportunity.
I don't know about other people, but personally, Attorney Jung Has Stomach Cancer Arc was enjoyable for me. I was especially touched that he's still very much in love with his ex-wife even though they have divorced and separated for 5 years. I cried in the last episode because of his scene with his wife. Attorney Jung is a good guy who isn't afraid to admit his mistakes, including the first time when he doubted Young Woo's ability to function in her job. If he leaves Hanbada and Season Two rolls around without him, I definitely won't find the story as enjoyable. But I'm not willing to see him break up with his wife a second time because he can't keep his promise with her a second time to take it easy with life. I hope the writers and production team can come up with a compromise that will give Attorney Jung some kind of ordinary peace and happiness. I look forward to S2.
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Watch it for Park Eun Bin's performance!
The story was good, overall. It started out very strongly, but by episode 6 or 7, I felt it had pretty much done all that it could do. I would classify this as a legal drama. There is a hint of romance that takes a back, back seat to the legal aspects of the show. That's not wrong, per se, but if you are coming for romance, you'll be greatly disappointed. Even the legal stories got to be a bit boring toward the end. There wasn't a lot of differentiation/conflict between the cases, they all flowed together.Park Eun Bin was excellent as Woo Young Woo.
I struggled with the romance aspect of the story, because I couldn't see what made Lee Joon Ho like Woo Young Woo. They were cute together, but they weren't on equal emotional/developmental footing, which would provide significant conflicts in a romantic relationship (maybe they will delve into this in the 2nd season, because I think that would be the only reason to have a second season).
Kang Ki Young as Jung Myung Seok - I love him in almost everything I've seen him in (the only time I haven't liked him is when he's a bad guy - so his acting is ALWAYS excellent, I just haven't liked the character in that instance.)
The music was fun and appropriate, and I liked the graphics with the whales, but this got old after a while.
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I really like how they tackles different case every episode, the way character's story got related to it, and the good message behind it. Even though there's some episodes that ends with vague closure it doesn't affect the enjoyability of this drama for me.
A good enough amount of romance and swoon worthy moments.
I love the comedic elements in the drama. The comedic elements are not forced, it's light-hearted and funny
+ The cgi for the whales were really good.
Dislikes: I feel like JH didn't have a proper character development, his life's kinda revolves around YW.
KMW change of attitude and loveline could've done better, it happened too suddenly
The story weakened towards the end
Rushed ending/plot holes probably on purpose, since they want to save room for the sequel.
The entire cast was superb, no complaints about anyone's acting skills.
Music used were all good. My favorite is 'Beyond My Dreams' by Sunwoojunga.
I'd definitely rewatching this, probably not the whole drama but mostly my favorite episodes.
Overall
Even with the flaws, it's still an enjoyable watch for me
I'd recommend if you like light-hearted law drama with slight romance.
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Overhyped and underwhelming
This show started very promisingly but barely delivered anything by the end. Things were going well until around episode 11 and then went downhill with that weird trip to Jeju island and never recovered. Last two episodes were crammed with cases again and closure for the characters was rushed at breakneck speed.All in all:
1. FL's character development barely progressed both professionally and personally. There were dropped sub plots that she may become more independent from her father, start cooking for herself, maybe go to work to a law firm that is closer to her principles - all were dropped. In the end, writers still managed to fall into a stereotype trap and convey the wrong idea about autistic people. Irl not all of them are savants, not all of them are treated so nicely at work, not all of them are so cute and therefore well liked. In the end, it became just another tropey story about a genius "detective/lawyer/prosecutor" with a quirk.
2. Some characters like ML were not given any background or character development at all. Some characters, like Min Woo and Soo Yeon had their characters as if completely swapped with someone else. FL's dad barely did anything for the plot, FL's mom is still a bitch - no family relationship development whatsoever. Some characters like FL's friend and friend's boss were relegated to sad and dumb comic reliefs. All in all, side characters of this drama has got to be one of the most underdeveloped I've ever seen in a kdrama.
2. Law side of the drama was weak and amateurish. Irl cases are not won simply by remembering a clause from a law book or looking up precedents, irl everyone looks them up prior going to court. Other attorneys and even some judges here are made so exaggeratingly dumb compared to FL, just to show how smart she is, it's simply embarassing. Some cases weren't even worth going to court, their arguments were on the surface and could have been resolved with a simple legal consultation. A few cases raised some serious social issues but writers didn't have the balls to give their definitive opinion on them, leaving the justice of their verdicts up to the audience to mull over.
3. Romance was very weak. Yes, it's cutesy and fluffy, actors are handsome and professional. But ML basically is just a prop put in there to love FL and be conveniently perfect to care for her for some reason. Was it her looks, or constant whale talk that made him fall in love with her? Not much was talked about when they interacted with each other and it made this whole romance look superficial and not convincing. Their break-up was dumb af and dragged unnecessarily for 3 episodes too long. And barely any time was given to their reconciliation and next to none to their further relationship. ML wasn't even introduced to FL's father. This is not how you give a satisfying closure to a romance arc.
All in all just one big overhyped trainwreck. But hey, they still have a chance to fix all this in season 2! But I'm not holding my breath.
P.S. The only ones worthy of praise were the actors, they did a very admirable job, especially PEB. And production value of this kdrama is very good as well, props to the production team. But sadly even they couldn't pull off the impossible with this kind of script.
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Why fit in when you were born to stand out?
This drama was exactly what I needed.In my opinion, Atty Woo is the perfect example of how good writing can unfold beautifully on-screen.
This whole drama has taken audiences across the world by storm and we've all seen it's rise since it aired.
The main female lead became an attorney with something that caught peoples' attention anytime she introduced herself.
Autism.
I saw a few people even asking what exactly is autism?
Well, you see, Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a neurological and developmental disorder that affects how people interact with others, communicate, learn, and behave. Although autism can be diagnosed at any age, it is described as a “developmental disorder” because symptoms generally appear in the first two years of life.
There are sometimes main symptoms of autism, such as, not responding to their name, avoiding eye contact, not smiling when you smile at them, getting very upset if they do not like a certain taste, smell or sound, repetitive movements, such as flapping their hands, flicking their fingers or rocking their body and not talking as much as other children.
We get to see all these symptoms in this drama!
Park Eun Bin portrayed all of these traits in such an unique way which held all viewers' eyes' captured on her.
Many don't know that Eun Bin majored in psychology and journalism in Sogang University. Which brings us to the next sentence, she genuinely knows how to understand all of her characters well and tries her best to portray them in her best way possible without disrespecting any part of it.
We love an iconic, educated queen for that!
"To measure the success of our societies, we should examine how well those with different abilities, including persons with autism, are integrated as full and valued members."
-Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon
I genuinely don't have much to say for this drama except the best of it, I never saw any flaws in it, it kept me in my seat from beginning till end and I'll never complain about it. Such a comforting drama, honestly. With many emotional moments, cute moments, romantic moments and moments that can make your skin boil, yeah, I'm talking about you Attorney Kwon.
Overall a 10/10 from me. Can't wait to see more of this casts' projects and can't wait to support them throughout those new projects!
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Disappointing
I watched it because of Park Eun Bin (I lover her so much in King's affection)This drama started quiet interesting - so no wonder it got all those attention and early news of American remake.
However just like most kdramas that suddenly got too much praise... the drama started to get boring after episode 6 - either the writers got pressured from all the attention or they really didn't know how to continue later on.
In the latter part of the series it felt as if things became repetitive. So many plot holes that was ignored since the story started to focus on romance and side characters.
I dislike the romance for the main couple, we never get any background story about the ml and how he started to like fl, it honestly bothered me so much... because I feel like watching a fully grown adult grooming a child. It would've been better if they were just friends or the romance was properly executed.
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It was good until it wasn’t :(
I would say first half was a good build up- interesting cases, interesting character development. Mid point it got a bit stale, and towards the end it was just lots of FF.The acting my Park Eun Bin is definitely praise worthy... I believe she studied the characteristics and portrayed very well a person with autism. So kudos to her!! Kang Tae Oh was dreamy up until the point where they broke up. When that happened, he seemed REAL CHILDISH and having tantrums lol.. idk.. he was just so pathetic about the whole situation.
Last few episodes the cases were boring, and all the unnecessary side plots like getting cancer, and the coworkers liking each other.. seemed like they just needed fillers. Give this one a go... but don’t expect too much. :)
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interesting initially but not towards the end
initially, it was interesting as they touched on a sensitive topic, autism. i’m not sure if i could take the show seriously about autism based on what was shown.the initial plot was good, where they started with her fitting in into the company and some character development. but towards the end, it became quite anti-climatic and boring. it ended with a lot of question marks and felt quite absurd.
however, the actress, Park Eun Bin’s acting is really really good, the way she portrayed the character was amazing! i was able to relate to the character as she was affected by the words of others in regards to her love life… however, wondering if it was factual that people with autism would be that sensitive to the people around them as the character always say “i’m someone who lives in my own world and only think about myself” or something along the line.
overall, was a pretty good watch
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I enjoyed the cases that are closer to our daily lives than the usual law kdramas
While this drama (I think) is most popular being about the "genius autistic lawyer", what I liked most is how the story spreads beyond that. Being more of a workplace drama, as she gets closer to her coworkers and gets to know them better, we learn more about who they are. Cases are also interesting. They aren't the usual heavy cases with conspiracies and corruption. They are closer to day-to-day cases with people similar to those you know in life. This is what made the drama feel closer to the viewer.The drama has its ups and downs, but it did leave me with a smile on my face and a desire to watch more, without needing to binge-watch to get it over with. In short, a decent and relaxing watch. Most of the points of my ratings is for that reason
Now we do need to address the elephant (or in this case the whale) in the room, which is having a leading character that is officially on the autism spectrum. I can't, and neither do most viewers, tell to what degree the portrayal is accurate. I don't think you can tell even if you know or have someone in your family on the spectrum. That is because it is a spectrum, in addition to each person having their own personality and quirks even without being on the said spectrum. I can say though, I didn't get the whole whale show every time our leading lady figured something out to make her case, and neither did I appreciate it much.
The part I appreciated the least in this drama was romance. I actually wish it was written out. Kang Tae Oh does have a romantic look in his eyes and is generally pleasant to look at, and I'm not totally against the romance being there but it did happen way too soon. It felt uncomfortable, and didn’t make sense to me as to when the love actually happened. I would've liked to see the development of their friendship instead. The secondary couple made even less sense to me. It came suddenly out of nowhere. I just didn't feel it.
The part I enjoyed the most is the friendship and camaraderie portrayal. The dependence and trust Young Woo develops towards everyone's favourite (for good reasons) attorney Jung, the growing bond between her and Choi Soo Yeon, her relationship with her father, and so on.
Actually, her relationship with her father was actually is actually what the most stood out for me. The distance felt when having an autistic child at times, closeness beyond any at other times, the worrying about always being available for your child, and the loneliness of being a single parent, all felt too real. The portrayal by Jeon Bae Soo could hardly be matched. He rarely needed to express it, the look in his eyes and his mannerisms said it all.
Out of all the other actors, Joo Jong Hyuk as Kwon Min Woo stood out for me the most. His character didn't actually make sense to me at times, especially in the last couple of episodes, but the actor's performance added more consistency and realism to the character.
Another point I enjoyed is the portrayal of the dilemma that comes from being a lawyer. Yes, most cases did eventually find an ideal ending, but the potential damage that comes from doing their job isn't glossed over. And I liked that Young Woo wasn't there to be the paragon of virtue, her priority was that of any lawyer, to do her job well and serve her client.
The writing had strong points but was uneven at times. Strong performances from the actors, and good directing made up where writing was lacking.
The drama ended on a good note, giving it a satisfying ending while leaving us with a taste of potential in case there is a second season. If the second season does happen, I look most forward to seeing a growing relationship between the siblings (WITHOUT the stereotypic overused Rubik's cube - FYI It does NOT indicate genius!).
PS. Does anyone know the actor playing CEO In Cheol? He looked so manly to me no matter how much he cried and begged LOL I think I just developed a major crush on him XD
Any recommendation for this actor is welcome for me :D
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Amazing Park Eun Bin + Pretty good portrayal of individuals with disabilities
Completed - 8/27/2022Subjective Rating - 8.75 because I enjoyed the 2 special needs cases.
Objective Rating - 8.0-8.5
*Disclaimer* I have been working with adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities (IDD) for 20+ years. So my review might reflect some of my experience. However, I am NOT someone with a disability, and can’t speak for those with IDD or other professionals in the field. I am a drama watcher and will review “Extraordinary Attorney Woo” (EAW) as such, and not as a case study.
In order to fully enjoy this drama, one should bear in mind that this is not a documentary of Woo Young Woo, nor is this a law drama. This is a light hearted drama showcasing the uniqueness of Young Woo and her personal growth in life, career and love. When watching this, I would assume the creators want to shed light and educate on Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) and to break some myths.
Having said that, I fully enjoy this drama. I was very hesitant to watch EAW as I worried the portrayal of someone with a disability is going to piss me off. I don’t want this drama to shed a negative light on someone with a disability, or paint a rosy picture either.
Portrayal of Woo Young Woo and Disabilities - I feel that the creators of this drama put all the common traits, quirks, and characteristics of someone with ASD into Young Woo. I personally believe if I meet an individual in real life with all these traits, this person might not be as cute and adorable as Young Woo. They would have a much tougher time in life, despite being a genius and graduating with high honors from a prestigious university. But as I said, this is not a documentary, so I will just go with the flow. There are two court cases about people with IDD and I am glad that the show mentioned the ‘Spectrum’ part of Autism Spectrum Disorder. The range is so wide that we can’t assume all individuals with ASD behave the same way. In fact, it doesn’t matter what your disability is, each individual is unique and special in their own way. We cannot assume someone with autism knows how to interact with another person with the same diagnosis, as evident in episode 3. In another court case, the focus is on romantic and sexual relationships between a young lady with mild intellectual disability and a man without a disability. It touched on some very important subjects - advocating for one’s rights to love and make decisions, understanding what love/sex mean, parent’s control and overprotectiveness, what the individual wants vs what their family wants, dignity of risks, stigma of being in a relationship (can someone with IDD be in a romantic relationship? yes they can!). These are all very realistic issues. Between EAW and the recently aired “Our Blues”, I am happy to see the portrayal of independent women with disabilities. They want to look pretty, want to have a boyfriend, and want to work to make a living, they want what everybody wants.
Park Eun Bin/Woo Young Woo (FL) - What more can we say about this amazing actress. She really deserves a Baeksang for her portrayal of Woo Young Woo. Another amazing drama after last year’s “The King’s Affection”. I am tired just watching her play this role and be in character mentally and physically for 16+ hours. Not only did Park Eun Bin give us an adorable Young Woo, but witnessing Young Woo’s growth, and Park Eun Bin’s acting in some very emotional but subtle scenes is an absolute joy. Young Woo gives us many comedic moments and you are never bored when she’s on the screen.
Kang Tae Oh/Lee Joon Ho (ML) - I am sure many of us fall in love with Joon Ho’s adoring eyes when he looks at Young Woo. This character is such a sweetheart and he loves and adores Young Woo for who she is. I almost placed him in my special Ideal Man list. However, I didn’t, because aside from being a romantic love interest, Lee Joon Ho is quite useless in this drama. He’s always on the sidelines or runs errands. There’s no character growth and nothing really happens to him. The romance is sweet and quite predictable. I just wish there’s more.
Supporting Cast - I enjoy the overall acting for the supporting cast. However, similar to my criticism of ML, this drama is very Young Woo-focused. Everyone else serves as a vehicle to help Young Woo grow in life and in her career. None of the side characters or stories are well developed. As much as I enjoy seeing powerful female lawyers, I still don’t understand why they’re rivalries. I do love the sismance though. Isn’t it nice to not have any catty, petty women but supportive female friendships? The secondary romance is somewhat bland. It should have started sooner. The way they fall for each other is not believable.
Court Cases - As mentioned this is not a law drama. The cases are short and episodic. I generally am not a fan of this format and find it repetitive. However, I didn’t feel it this way. The cases are not particularly interesting or exciting to me, aside from the 2 cases I mentioned above. Everything seems to resolve quite easily because Young Woo is a genius. I was never on the edge of my seat. This is probably the most light-hearted ‘law’ drama I’ve ever watched.
Overall, I strongly recommend this very binge-worthy drama. It’s light-hearted and fun. I hope the popularity of this drama does shatter the stigma and myths about Autism Spectrum Disorder.
Other Random Observations:
1. Lawyers should really lock their office doors when they go home.
2. Love the dolphin and whale hats - cute!!!!
3. Love the list of hilarious dates - picking up trash and protesting about dolphins.
4. First few episodes, the background music plays too much and tries to manipulate how viewers are feeling about certain scenes. This is not as noticeable in the latter part.
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