Muito bom!!!! Melhor dorama que já assisti. Merece muito reconhecimento.
Um dos melhores doramas que eu já assisti!! Já se tornou meu preferido, um suspense muito bom, não imaginava esse final, tadinho fez as pessoas sofrer e sofreu muito, tudo culpa do pai dele!!! Se não fosse o pai dele ele seria uma pessoa boa. É isso, um bj, se quiser saber mais sobre o dorama é só assistir! ?Um dos melhores doramas que eu já assisti!! Já se tornou meu preferido, um suspense muito bom, não imaginava esse final, tadinho fez as pessoas sofrer e sofreu muito, tudo culpa do pai dele!!! Se não fosse o pai dele ele seria uma pessoa boa. É isso, um bj, se quiser saber mais sobre o dorama é só assistir! ?
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Arte em forma de roteiro
Ainda não encontrei nada que me impressionasse mais do que esse drama. Confesso que no meio dos episódios fiquei com medo de me frustrar, porque eram MUITOS plots, muitos personagens (todos profundos e incrivelmente ricos em suas histórias), muitas fases... mas em NADA fui frustrada em minhas expectativas.É chocante como o drama não precisou de NENHUMA muleta para ser genial. Nenhuma cena foi à toa, gente. Vou seguir essa roteirista Choi Ran por onde ela for.
Mesmo com 20 episódios, TODAS as cenas foram explicadas e resgatadas com a coerência do plot, entregando uma obra coesa, de qualidade e muita maturidade para abordar tantos temas pesados e tantos traumas diferentes.
O fato do plot não precisar explorar romance para prender o público também me agradou demais. Episódios longos sem nenhum minuto desperdiçado. Lee Seung Gi como Jung Ba Reum está genial. Com certeza esse papel marcou não apenas sua carreira como uma geração inteira de atores que vão sonhar e se empenhar para buscar esse nível de excelência.
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Questionador Moral
Tenho que alertar que há gatilhos, obviamente de violência, abuso sexual, violência infantil e também tratos a animais. Uma coisa que não posso deixar de falar é que contém ficção científica, não espere tudo super realista, há muito hipérbole sobre a psicopatia.Em um primeiro momento me perguntei por que tem este nome, vendo tirei a conclusão que é uma comparação de psicopatas com ratos, nos induzindo a caçar o rato, descobrindo quem é, entrando no jogo de gato e rato e por fim transformando tudo uma experiência.
Ele também questiona “Se pudesse detectar a psicopatia ainda no ventre, o que faria?” O que fez lembrar sobre uma questão que foi publicada no New York Times há mais ou menos cinco anos, “Se pudesse recuar no tempo, mataria o bebê Hitler?”, então há todo momento há o conceito moral.
A sinopse deixa impressão que o dorama é nada mais do mesmo de investigação, mas na verdade há tanto para assimilar e teorizar. Por isso é importante ver os especiais, aliás são quatro. O primeiro é um documentário, se chama Mouse: Restart, uma recapitulação com entrevistas com elenco e saber como os atores se sentem. Achei interessante eles dizerem como se sente após as filmagens e como afeta suas vidas, o que mostra o quão imersos estão em seus papéis. O segundo se chama Mouse: The Predator, aqui vemos o lado do assassino, há mais dois, mas ainda não vi. Como tem uma segunda fase a partir do episódio dez, indico ver os dois primeiros, entre o episódio dez e doze, assim ajuda no entendimento.
O primeiro capítulo foi eletrizante e agonizante, talvez o mais forte que já vi, grande responsabilidade para o elenco infantil, aliás eles arrasaram, são super talentosos, especialmente Kim Kang Hoon. Com certeza é uma futura promessa para as telas. E o que falar de Lee Seung Gi e Lee Hee Joon? Levaram nas costas toda carga do dorama, eles foram monstros em suas atuações. Amo atores que diversificam em seus papéis.
Se fosse para escolher uma cena marcante, seria difícil, mas me esforçado muito escolheria a cena do final.
Até agora está entre os melhores do gênero do ano junto com Beyond Evil, mas estou na espera por Voice 4.
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Complexa ratoeira
Mouse foi em 2021 o melhor que assisti em matéria de suspense criminal, em segundo indico Belive Begin também coreano, ambos trazem uma atmosfera de arrepiar os ossos com as mortes mostradas e todo o raciocínio dos vilões nós crimes cometidos com fartura de ideias horrendas, cada um com uma justificativa das mais loucas , que na real não justifica nada.Mas enfim, toda a trama diz ser baseada em um faz de conta, mas me fez duvidar no fim que esse tipo de experiência possa ou já esteja sendo realizada, uma estória muito louca e de fato engenhosa.
Será que seria possível irradicar futuros criminosos diretos dos ventres de suas maes? Se sim, será que não estarias sendo como Hitles do século 21 em busca de uma raça perfeita?
Só assinto do cada um terá sua conclusão ou ficará com mais dúvidas.
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uma história recheada de plot twist.
mouse foi um dorama que simplesmente me surpreendeu, a cada episódio eu recebia um choque diferente. mas o final foi uma das grandes surpresas que recebi... não, na verdade o que eu não queria aceitar.ver personagens queridos morrerem realmente dói, mas ver a verdadeira face dos personagens é um baque gigantesco que ninguém quer. e mouse entrega isso com maestria, tanto que eu quase defendi o 'errado' e julguei o 'certo'. o final é triste, porém é que mais condiz com a história merecia: um arco de redenção e um final merecedor para o criminoso.
e falo com propriedade: esse dorama merece todo o reconhecimento do mundo. ASSISTAM.
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Interessante
A unica certeza que você terá assistindo esse drama é a absolutata certeza que você nunca terá certeceza de nada, tenha isso em mente quando você tentar desvendar os enigamas que o drama vai lhe apresentando.Este show é recheado de surpreendentes reviravoltas, e o tempo todo o que você acha que fato na realidade não é, você fica totalmente submerso no enredo. Tenho também que destacar as atuações que são formidáveis, principalmente dos dois protagonistas masculinos, eles atuaram com maestria.
Embora esse drama seja bom para mim confesso que em sua metade eu o achei um pouco arrastado o que tornou cansativo , poderia ter menos episódios, ponto negativo para mim é a edição, as cenas disconexas que eles jogam no primeiro episódio do passado que na cabeça dos produtores ficaria interessante e enigmático na relidade ficou confuso e bagunçado.
Mas ainda sim é um bom show, com cereza não foi tempo perdido.
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The only certainty you will have watching this drama is the absolute certainty that you will never be sure of anything, keep that in mind when you try to unravel the riddles that the drama presents you.
This show is full of surprising twists and turns, and all the while what you think is actually not the case, you are totally submerged in the plot. I also have to highlight the performances that are formidable, especially from the two male protagonists, they acted with mastery.
Although this drama is good for me, I confess that in its half I found it a little dragged out which made it tiring, it could have had fewer episodes, a negative point for me is the editing, the disconnected scenes that they play in the first episode of the past that in the head of the producers would be interesting and enigmatic in reality it was confused and messy.
But it's still a good show, certainly not wasted time.
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A Gripping Descent into the Darkest Corners of Humanity
Mouse isn't your typical Korean drama. It's a dark and thought-provoking thriller that dives headfirst into the question of nature vs. nurture, leaving you questioning everything you thought you knew about psychopaths. Buckle up, because this mind-bending ride is equal parts thrilling and disturbing, but undeniably captivating.A Gruesome Premise with High Stakes: The story centers around Jung Ba-reum, a kind-hearted police officer whose world is shattered when he encounters a sadistic psychopath. This encounter sets off a chain of events that forces Ba-reum to confront a chilling reality: a new technology can identify psychopathic tendencies in children. As the ethical and moral implications of this technology unfold, the lines between good and evil begin to blur.
Not for the Faint of Heart: Mouse doesn't shy away from violence and disturbing subject matter. The portrayal of psychopathy is unflinching, and the show tackles sensitive topics that may be uncomfortable for some viewers. However, this unflinching portrayal is precisely what makes the drama so gripping. It forces you to confront the darkest corners of human nature, raising questions about the very essence of humanity.
Stellar Performances Fuel the Suspense: Lee Seung-gi delivers a phenomenal performance as Ba-reum, showcasing his character's transformation from a wide-eyed optimist to a man grappling with a horrifying truth. The supporting cast is equally impressive, particularly Park Ju-hyun and Seo In-guk, whose portrayals add layers of complexity and intrigue to the narrative.
A Twisty Narrative with Uneven Pacing: The plot of Mouse is full of twists and turns, keeping you guessing until the very end. However, the pacing can be uneven at times, with some episodes feeling slow and others crammed with information. This might leave some viewers frustrated, but for those who persevere, the payoff is a truly satisfying conclusion.
A Must-Watch for Fans of Dark Thrillers: If you're looking for a K-drama that will challenge your perceptions and keep you on the edge of your seat, Mouse is a must-watch. However, be prepared for a dark and intense experience that's not for the faint of heart. It's a show that will stay with you long after the credits roll, prompting you to question the very nature of humanity and the potential for good or evil within us all.
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BABILONICO
Simplesmente mudou vidas, carreiras e trajetórias! Mouse me surpreendeu demais mesmo, especialmente pq nunca vou assistir algo esperando muito, e ele além de conseguir me dar expectativas ao longo dos episódios, ele cumpriu todas elas!Se o drama tivesse ido parar em alguma rede grande de streaming ele COM CERTEZA teria mais reconhecimento pois ele faz por merecer isso, muito parabéns a quem escreveu o roteiro ! É uma história muito grande e com vários personagens, histórias, emoções, então é fácil se perder na narrativa ao longo dos episódios, mas cada uma das partes foi contada da forma devida e absolutamente TUDO faz sentido no final, quase nenhuma ponta solta, e o fechamento faz todo sentido, não consigo ver o dorama terminando de outra forma da que terminou, especialmente aquela última cena ineditazinha com o rato que *, enfim! Se tivesse uma segunda temp assistiria horrores, um beijão!
(Um crédito especial a direção de arte pois a ambientação é TUDO, sem contar na simbologia por trás de várias cenas)
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A maior trama que já vi
Eu fui atrás de spoiler então acabei achando algo que apontava pra quem era o assassino, entao eu fiquei encucada dizendo que não podia ser ele porque não fazia o mínimo sentido mas gente esse dorama é uma loucura??? Eu realmente não sei, você sente vontade de puxar os cabelos, de gritar. Eu me senti uma tola, idiota porque quis que o outro morresse o tempo todo e no fim ele era bom ? que tristeza e ainda mais a avó da bong yi, o padre, o go mu chi que sempre quis que fosse feliz o tempo todo, fiquei arrasada. Chorei tanto com a morte do detetive filho do presidente, ele não merecia morrer. A conexão, a rede de pessoas envolvidas tudo por causa daquela velha safada, nojenta que não tinha o que fazer e uma coisa que começou anos atrás, envolvendo o pai dele que vetou o teste de gene pra abortar bebês, o filho do headhunter. Tanta coisa, tantas pessoas que sofreram e ele ter sentimentos no final? Genial!!!! Mouse é um dos doramas mais bem feitos que já assisti e eu nem tenho palavras pra explicar.E obviamente aplaudir de pé a atuação do seung gi nesse drama, impecável!
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Mesmo assim a cada episódio eu me sentia mais envolvida com os personagens e com as minhas próprias teorias, acertei algumas inclusive.
A trama também traz questionamentos importantes.
No geral, eu gostei de Mouse, me manteve interessada e nunca entediada. E as atuações são de tirar o fôlego.
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Two words: Criminally underrated!
However I can't blame anybody who doesn't like it. If you don't pay a lot of attention even to the smallest things, you will lost and think: it is a mess with so much plot hole and stupid decisions. It's a hard drama to watch and the amount of characters makes it more harder. A notebook fit well with this series. It was a not so good decision to not tag it as a Sci-Fi since the basics (DNA, surgery) are in fact not be too far from the truth. (Google is your best friend!)My recommendation is do yourself a favor and find out soon who is the serial killer, because later on -after episode 6- it won't be the focal point of the story. So you can focus on another really important details which will lead to the only big twist. From episode 7, the real question is not Who is? but What happened? and in the last episodes: Why? It's not a big deal to find out who is our psychopath tough you have to know what you should search for. (Checkpoint is on the end of the rooftop scene in episode 6!)
Sometimes the story seems over-complicated because it's overcrowded. It's a thrilling experience with a dark and very twisted world. I know It's hard to concentrate every single detail all the time but at the end it will pay off.
That's very interesting how the show presents its characters. We can't embraces the most of them. Maybe you can sympathize with them. The most likeable character is Moo Chi who has the biggest character development. We can feel his sadness and grief, sense his motivation... and what about his deep depression which led to his alcoholism. These characters are complex and interesting with morally questionable motives.
The bad guys are bad all through! Some of them are born that way (as a psychopath) and some become monster cause of events. (Not all murderers are psychopaths and not all psychopaths are murderers!) Our main serial killer is a mentally ill psychopath who murders anybody within his own rules. And the rules are very sick like him. He is a true psychopath with god-complex and delusions. His smile gives me goosebumps. But he is not the worst!
Technically, the cinematography and sound-design is excellent but in some scenes the edition and lightning is poor. I also don't like the censorship but its my overall problem with this genre in the Korean film industry. The themes are very interesting and important. There are a lot of social problems and moral controversies in this series. Viewers can see how detailed the criminal side of the show. Also Pyo Chang-won - a very famous Korean criminal profiler and expert on police studies- worked in the show and his lecture was an important part of the script. (He has a short cameo in the last episode) . There are references to real crimes as the infamous Cho Doo-Soon case which was inspired Bong Yi' s background story. Congratulation to the cast, especially to LSG. This is his best role without any question. If He won't win any award for it I will be angry as hell!
On the whole, It became my favorite psycho-thriller k-drama with its complexity. It is well-made and well-written but not for everybody. Who don't mind blood, violence, dark themes and world, just start it! This drama is unique in its genre.
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I have a few unpopular opinions
For what I expected to be my favourite drama of the year, I've concluded it with lukewarm feelings. As much as I know a lot of people really loved this show, I have a lot of issues with it from morals to general plot progression and characterization. I don't think it was all bad and the premise really showed a lot of promise, but for me, it failed to reach the potential that I thought it deserved.Let's start from the beginning. My hype for Mouse was at its peak before I ever started watching it, back when the description was just a vague blurb about a world where psychopaths could be determined before birth and the societal response to that. That right there is interesting to me, extremely. Just that short, nondescript idea was enough to get me really invested in what this show would become. So I was already past the point of no return when I realized that the writer for this drama was the same writer as Black. For anyone who has actually watched Black, you may understand why this set off alarm bells for me. But whatever, I was already set on watching it. I was even more excited than I was for Beyond Evil, which has so far been my favourite mystery/thriller this year.
From the very first episode, something did not sit well with me, and that was the portrayal of psychopaths. You know, the entire focal point of the drama. I knew going in that it wasn't going to be realistic because of the introduction of the psychopath gene and the prenatal test for it. Okay, fine. But the drama heavily referenced psychopaths being serial killers. Actually, all of their arguments centred around the idea that every psychopath was a serial killer when, really, most aren't. And the fact that the show was demonizing unborn children? It bothered me. But well, that's what I signed up for! I knew going into it that it would do that, and my hopes were that the drama would challenge the biased opinions it set out at the beginning throughout the drama. And well... it didn't. Not even a little bit. It just reaffirmed them throughout. Hm. Well okay. Maybe I won't agree with the morals, but I can still enjoy the story, right? Well...
I found the start of the drama a little fun. The moments of suspense reminded me of a b-horror movie which could be both cringy and fun, so I was okay with that. But the further I watched, the more I realized that it wasn't very enjoyable. To be enjoyable, a drama doesn't necessarily need to be funny and charming. Dark, gritty shows that make you think can be entertaining, too. But as I watched, I realized I didn't like any of the characters. They were all characters who had been deeply scarred by past events and losses in their lives so I didn't expect them to be happy, good, fun people, but their flaws didn't seem to justify their actions and, honestly, they felt a bit like caricatures. Those singular events in their past defined who they were as people.
Take Moo Chi - he's an off-the-walls alcoholic detective with anger issues. Why is he that way? Well, his parents were murdered and beheaded by a serial killer and his brother was seriously injured in the same event and had to go through many operations just to keep his life. His brother never recovered. That night still lives with him and he can't escape it. Okay, makes sense. So, what does he like? Well... alcohol, I guess. His brother? His team, maybe? Half the time he's fighting with them, so I can't be sure. What are his interests? Hm. Drinking? Chasing criminals? Being depressed in his room? Depression makes a lot of sense for his character, especially after his brother's death, but he has no interests. There's nothing in his room that indicates that he's cared about anything but catching criminals his entire life and that just isn't a character. You can say that he's obsessed, but even people who are will have things they've picked up over the decades of their lives that they care about. And it isn't even like he's a good detective - he's very slow to piece things together. While watching Mouse, I never really cared for the moments he was on screen. And I don't think it's at all the actor's fault. He's doing his best with what he's been given. He's a good actor. But there wasn't much to work with there.
Okay. Bong Yi. Where to start? Well, she was a victim of sexual assault when she was younger and is scarred ever since. Same deal as with Moo Chi. She's traumatized and that's entirely valid. She loves her grandmother, but also somewhat blames her grandmother for what happened to her. That comes out when she's angry. She has a temper, like Moo Chi. She knows how to fight - I can assume maybe self-defence classes in her past. She... boxes? I guess? Great, a hobby! And she has a crush on Ba Reum. Okay, so she has interests! Right? Well... not really. The strange thing about this writer is that she's actually not great at writing women. You can see it in Black, too - the badly written female characters. She tries to follow the 'strong female character' trope that's become popular over the years but doesn't go far beyond the trope. The girl can fight, great, but whenever there comes a time where she actually needs to fight, she's useless. She'll almost catch a criminal here and there, but mostly her confrontations will end in her being a victim that needs to be saved. Throughout the series, she was just a magnet for every serial killer and rapist. They all gravitated to her house like there was a big red sign out front that read 'TARGET'. As for her crush on Ba Reum, that was her entire role. She was meant to be the love interest and victim of the serial killer in order to add more angst, drama and tragedy to the script.
Ba Reum. Well, personality-wise, he was a bit likeable. He was meant to be. In fact, his kind act was so caked on that most of the viewers realized in episode 2 that he was going to turn out to be the serial killer while the show was trying to act like it was some big twist to be revealed at the 3/4 mark. It was predictable. But what bothers me with that is that him being a genuinely nice guy who likes to take care of animals would have been the better twist. Everyone also figured out early on that he was the Head Hunter's biological son, too. It would have been a good chance for the show to challenge the earlier morals that it established but, well, it decided that no, psychopaths are determined at birth and they all need to be aborted because the only route they'll take in life is murder! I won't go into that rant. That aside, his character was... okay. He still didn't really have many interests, but they at least established more of his history through his friends. We got more info through the backstory of his family and their murders... but I really don't want to touch on what a mess the family history is in this show. 'Serial killer turned nice guy' was his entire personality and we can just leave him at that.
This goes for most of the other side characters, too. They're very one-dimensional and when you look back on it, it makes them hard to like. This isn't a Mouse exclusive problem and actually tends to be a big issue I have with a lot of thrillers, but the writing of the focal points matters a lot in whether these simple characters bother me or not. Unfortunately, the story wasn't enough to detract from that. What a mess. It bothers me that this drama isn't tagged as sci-fi because of the brain-transplant element later on in the show. And the psychopath test. Of course. The plot was really inconsistent from thereon. Looking back, it feels like the entire middle of the show could have been cut out and we would have still ended up in the same place. Ba Reum's amnesia only succeeded in dragging out the show. It could have been 16 hour-long episodes or less and I feel that the takeaway would have been the same. Actually, how interesting would it have been to have Ba Reum wake up remembering that he is a serial killer, but now also being able to feel the guilt that he never could have before? Following that character would have been very interesting. That's not the show we have, though.
There was too much going on at once I think. The story was vast, but it didn't amount to much. The OZ conspiracy was honestly unnecessary. The government being involved felt a bit silly. If this show had stayed solely about the serial killer and was shorter in accordance with that, I think it would have had more of an impact on me. That was the part that was interesting. That was what I hung onto. But by the time we reached the end, it felt like the spark just sort of... fizzled out. The last episode was focused on wrapping up loose ends but by the time Ba Reum was arrested, I realized I didn't care about what was happening to any of the characters. I didn't like Bong Yi, Hong Ju or Moo Chi. They, like I said, didn't feel like real characters. Then the law was passed to abort fetuses with the psychopath gene, and I was wondering whether that was supposed to be considered a victory or if it was supposed to be seen in a negative light. I wasn't sure how I felt. Especially after the show essentially showing Ba Reum's mother starting everything. She misinterpreted Ba Reum's intent to kill his brother and told his adoptive mother to kill him. Ba Reum's family was murdered before him, and his first murder was of the man who killed them. That was the trigger. It does make me wonder how he would have turned out had it not been for the actions of the people around him. I assume that was the writer's goal, so props for that.
There are some bright sides to this experience. In concept, it was interesting. I'm glad it went the route of Ba Reum being the original killer instead of Yo Han. And hey, the ending wasn't half as bad as Black's. But unfortunately, the whole journey felt a bit meaningless to me and that last episode especially left a lot to be desired. Episodes were focused on ending with big cliffhangers and shocking the audience rather than telling a well-written story and the characters were stereotypes that failed to break the mould. I can't say that I regret watching it though. It was nice to see Seunggi acting again and I had fun in some of the earlier episodes. There were moments I got excited, too. So I can't say it's not worth watching, but I also can't say that it is, either. I do get why so many people loved it, and I feel with some changes maybe I would have been one of them.
For me, Mouse will remain a terribly long journey and a cautionary tale not to get too excited by a drama's premise.
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