Para Sempre Camélia (2019)

the story of a naive but storng woman that bring a child on her own as a single mom, without the father knowlage. she open a bar by herself while rising a baby . she doesn't tell the father because she want to raise the baby on her own, she doesn't want his support, she can do it, she also doesn't want him to give her any support after he found out about the child, she also forgive her mother after abonded her and take care of her, her mother has being forgiven because she is ill, she also very storng and not firghtening to live in dark bar with her baby for more than 6 year while a murderer want to kill her and made her as a target.

when you think of this description you already become familier about the South korean biggest obsession of all:
------------------Woman must be superhero and a saint /angle -------------------------
she is literally saint super hero.
while in reality women in day life struggle to earn money to themself, when they have a baby as single mom they are barly live, they need finance help, or they become prostitute to bring income or sending the baby to adopted family.
even single person without a support can't open a bar, but here we see an single mother orphan that open a bar...it's quite amazing don't you think? more as a super hero than a real human, espesialy in South Korea,

the thing is that in korea there are a lot of prastitude women but they don't talk about it, they don't even dare to show it in their "clean" "rich" Kdramas , the woman is always perfect even if she is poor , the main lead i mean.

if she is a side support role actress she can be aweful, but than she got murdered by the joker, so she not even allowed to live\ i am talking now on the waiter that worked in camellia bar. she suppose to be the real main actress, the main character also, but yet...she is only the "support" actress.
she is so human, to compare to Camelia...yet she satying alwayes the supporting role//

she is not pritty enough, she is not good enough,.she just need to die!
that how they see women in general in their society.
you don't understand it until you watch in a decate full of Kdrama, and than you understand theres a lot of prastitude on the streets and you want to cry...why can't be a prastitude them main lead, why she is not human in their eyes, why women have to be perfect saint all the time,

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Es posible que alguién sea el milagro en la vida de otra persona?

Encantadora historia de una madre soltera en un pueblo cercano a Seul. Sus penas y alegrías, su historia de amor con un joven policía, su relación con los vecinos y las vecinas del pueblo, aderezado con un misterio criminal a resolver.
Me ha gustado mucho! Los actores son fabulosos y tienen una gran química. Y todos los secundarios hacen un gran trabajo! Combina muy bien la comedia y los momentos dramáticos y hasta trágicos. Es una serie larga. Son 20 episodios de más de una hora de duración pero mantiene el ritmo a lo largo de los episodios y te deja con un fantástico sabor de boca. Todo el drama es una oda a las madres y a la maternidad, al amor puro y fiel y a la perseverancia a la hora de conseguir tus sueños.

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After the first episode I thought: strangely enough, there’s nothing special about this boring drama (delete that now!), but there are the really beautiful moments that hit right.

It is the most down to earth drama. Down to earth characters.

Amazing acting. Yong-Shik was brought to life.

Heartwarming, Touching, Funny, Irresistible charm, amazing people, wonderful OST.

Great plot. It’s clear that it’s done by a talented director (who also made other fav dramas of mine).
Great cinematography. Great shots.

Leaves a strong impression.

A Refreshing kind of story.
This drama makes me crazy. It makes me laugh out of no where.

Music is fantastic.

I knew it would be good because of Gong Hyo Jin but ...
Hwang Yong Shik was the heart of the party.
Watch it to understand how precious his character is. It cannot be hated.

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Cómo puede, la presencia de una persona, cambiarte la vida.

Después de haber visto más de cien dramas, aproximadamente, me cansé, perdí el interés porque no encontraba nada nuevo; solo sacaban las mismas historias de siempre y estaba ya harta. Hasta que un día, me topé con este drama.
No puedo describir lo perfecto, que para mi, es este drama. Lo tiene todo: romance, misterio, familia, comedia, etc. Pero algunas de las cosas que más me cautivaron son las siguientes:

1. El protagonista.
Yong Shik es simplemente perfecto. Estamos acostumbrados a que en los dramas, el protagonista sea el típico rico, fuerte, millonario, etc; y él es justo lo contrario, una persona normal que no tiene miedo de decir lo que siente. No es el príncipe que viene a salvar a cenicienta sino que más bien, viene a apoyarla, a hacerla darse cuenta de que no necesita que nadie la salve porque ella es lo suficientemente fuerte y que puede valerse por sí misma; a acompañarla en su camino a quererse y respetarse a sí misma. Entiende que la prioridad de la protagonista es su hijo, etc. Podría seguir pero no quiero alargar tanto la cosa.
¡Quién no quiere a una hombre con un dron!

2. El mensaje
Creo que este drama nos enseña, entre muchas cosas, que aunque la gente y el mundo sean malos con nosotros, nosotros elegimos como afrontar esta realidad. Es cierto que los vecinos se metían con la prota, que no tenía buena suerte que se diga y que tuvo una infancia terrible; pero ella se dejó vencer, era una autentica plasta que se dejaba pisotear. Yong Shik viene a representar este guía que la hace ver que para que su mundo cambie, ella debe dar el primer paso...

3. Los secundarios
En especial, el "hombre barato" Gyu Tae, es quién le aporta comedia al drama y lo hace a la perfección. La relación con su esposa es increíble.

4. Romper con los clichés.
Los dos protagonista tienen, más o menos, la misma situación económica. La prota es mayor que el protagonista y nadie dice nada al respecto, ni siquiera lo mencionan; te das cuenta porque en uno de los episodios muestran que cuando la madre de Yong Shik estaba embarazada, Dong Baek ya tenía unos tres años, más o menos. Nada de malos entendidos estúpidos y podría seguir y seguir...

Sólo he resaltado algunos puntos pero os aseguro que mis palabras no alcanzar para describir lo bueno que es este drama.
Si has perdido la pasión por los kdramas, este drama te hará recuperarla.

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Unique combination executed well

I am a huge fan of Gong Hyo Jin and after watching this, I also admire Oh Jung Se as the bumbling town clown, Son Dam Bi as the tormented street-smart gal, and Yeom Hye Ran as the hard-on-the-outside accomplished woman. They all played absolutely amazing supporting characters.

I have to give the writer and director so many kudos for this very unique combination of: rom-com, innocently chasing the girl romance, complex ex husband and family relationships, and thriller. I haven't seen it executed in this way. At the heart of it, I would call it a slice of life exploration of a single mom who feels empowered one moment and anxiously depressed the next. Some might criticize some of her choices, expecting the character to either be "always good" or "always needing to be rescued" as some dramas depict, but I feel that the variety of actions she takes make her very human and realistic. She makes mistakes like we all do.

It's a slow paced drama so you need to have a bit of patience to savor each step. I wouldn't say it's boring, but the pace kind of meanders but in a way that still fits the slightly mysterious feeling of the way the director and writer wanted it to go. You never feel completely confident that you understand where anything is going so you have to be OK with that when watching this drama.

The only thing I am a bit disappointed in is actually the main romance storyline. I think Kang Ha Neul played his role as Yong Shik well, but it was perhaps written a bit too innocently. You see glimpses that he truly understands all of the nuances of Dong Baek's life, but he doesn't get the chance to articulate it through effective script writing in the way I would have liked. I feel the other characters have more meaningful interactions with each other and Dong Baek than he does, even by the end of the drama.

Overall I have to applaud this unique execution of a realistic feeling mysterious drama. It won't be everyone's cup of tea, but I enjoyed it and would watch it again to catch all the nuances that I missed the first time.

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When Camellia Blooms est un drama qui me fait vraiment penser à reply 1988. C'est le meme type de drama qui parle de la vie, de la famille, et d'un petit quartier qui constitue une grande famille. Mais dans When Camellia Blooms on voit l'ajout d'une intrigue policiere. Je dois avouer que j'ai au départ eu peur que Cette intrigue soit trop lourde et contrastée comparée à l'autre partie romance/Slice of life. Mais le drama sait trouvé le bon équilibre.
J'ai aussi beaucoup aimé le changement de photographie entre la lumiere blue et froide des scenes policieres Et la lumiere chaleureuse des scénes de rom-com. Ca met aussi une démarquation claire entre les deux intrigues.

Un grand point fort du drama c'est ses personnages.
Le personnage qu'interprete Kang HaNeul est vraiment extrement attachant. Il illuminait l'écran à chaque apparition, et meme les moments plus serieux était un peu plaisir tant il peut exprimer par son regard.
Mais je pense qu'au niveau du jeu d'acteur il se fait voler la vedette par Kong HyoJin et Kang Hoon.
Les larmes de Kong HyoJin étaient si vraies et si brutes que plusieures fois j'en pleurais avec elle. Aussi Kang Hoon m'a surpris par un si bon jeu d'acteur malgrés son si jeune age.
Tout les personnages sont vraiment attachant, j'ai adoré suivre leur histoires et leur evolution.

When Camellia Blooms est une histoire vraiment reconfortante, qui nous fait passer par pleins de sentiments

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I hated the male lead’s character

I held out until the first kiss but I had to drop this drama as I couldn’t stand the male lead’s character. Is he really 30 years old because he acts so childish and says the dumbest things? I was not impressed by the ML’s country bumpkin pseudophilosophy about life (and did not find anything he said swoon worthy). I don’t know how the female lead could fall for this guy (maybe he just wore her down with his relentless pursuit of her). The ML is a nice person but he spends more time chasing of his love than he does at work. When the ML is working, he only obsesses over catching the Joker (who is, of course, directly linked to the FL). I almost wished the FL had reconciled with her ex-boyfriend to give her son a better life. TBH, I am coming off some short 10 minute episode Chinese dramas so I was never able to watch an entire episode, of this drama, in one sitting.

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Don't get be wrong; this is honestly a good show. It's a good filler and good binge show; but I think it truly extremely fell short with the whole murder story line; like what? Lmao. It was good and I liked the story and the actors and actresses played such good characters but WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THE MURDER??? THERE WASN'T!!!! HER LIFE WAS ALREADY SO HARD!!!! But you should still watch it; because it was a good show overall. Like the characters were sweet and the bond; the family story and the emotion you'll feel because there really is a lot of ups and downs but there is a lot going on with separate stories between everyone; from an ex to a new guy; to a divorcing couple and cheating husband; all sorts of whirlwind of things.

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Pet peeve tropes

I was lured by this because apparently Koreans really valued this series for destigmatizing single motherhood.

But when we learn the single mother is in this predicament by her own choice and for no reasonable motives AT ALL the show loses all relatability and verisimilitude. She basically decided not disclosing her pregnancy to her then boyfriend for unexplainable reasons, which is infuriating in itself because both the kid and the father have the right to know their biological family in this case.
And then we discover that her baby daddy is a rich athlete on top of that. So she made her son and herself go through hardships just CAUSE. She deprived her son of a more abundant life, perhaps with better education and whatever money can buy for nothing.

And then we have some more tired tropes like the FL being a doormat to the horrible people that live in that small town.

And this is all I could endure. The dealbreaker was really the baby daddy reveal.

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