AMAZING LONG BUT WORTH IT! ( Biased review)
Sorry abt grammar and the rambling in advance.This is just amazing, it is my first chinese drama and still one of the best dramas i've ever watched although many will say that it has a lot of fillers i def think it it worth watching it one of the staples of c drama. If you have not watch it yet What are you doing with your life! Although the quality may not me the best compared to 2020-2021 dramas it is still amazing considering when it was filmed the growth of the characters was also amazing we can see how the character grow from young and innocent to more mature( specifically the FM). def has Second male lead syndrome but still nothing beats xu feng.
I just cant explain my love for this drama one thing i do know is that it is one of the best dramas i have ever watched .
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The problem I had with watching this as an English speaker was the translation. The drama critic, Artemide, described it, “The action takes place in the prehistorical era, in a time when the six realms were reigning independently in harmony.” After reading his description, we know that this was LONG before the “Age of Slang.” But, slang and culturally specific terminology determined by modern concurrent events abound in this translation. Two examples are “Buy 1 Get 1 Free” and “Have a casual hang-out and chill together.” Another example is “Roger that!” This was repeated time and again in the drama and could not possibly have even been dreamt of due to the lack of technology during the ancient times. Roger came from the WWII use of two-way radios as a verbal signal of recognition and confirmation. Its use in this drama was just silly! Also, the calling of women LORD or GOD (this occurred mostly in the beginning of the drama and was later corrected) would not have been permitted since women were NOT equal to men even in Heaven. They would have been called Lady or Mistress or Goddess or something appropriate that has recently been discarded by the PC police of this era. The prime example would be calling a female an actor instead of an actress to eliminate gender.
The list of the following were used. I have reinterpreted them to better suit this particular drama’s era. Phrases used in the drama are followed by something like it should be. Roger that!- Right away, I understand, I will get that done; No Worries!-It’s alright, or It can easily be remedied; My bad!-My fault, or It was my grievous fault; Freaked me out!-Scared me, or Frightened me; Sure!-Yes; Pushing my bottom line-Pushing my patience, or Endurance; What a joke!-This must be a jest!; Every Jack has a Jill-Every man has a woman; It’s a deal-We have an agreement; I’ll be darned!-I am amazed: This is weird-This is very strange or odd; Stuff!-Should be specifically named; Tough nut to crack-Difficult person; Whatever!-It is of no consequence; The bigger picture-The larger scheme; Get it?-Understand?; Buck the trend-Go against convention or tradition; Hit below the belt-cheat or harm; Buck up!-Try to feel better; Some new-fangled thing-something new; It’s a piece of cake-It’s easy; Get back on the right track-Begin again correctly; You jerk-anything appropriate would do: ingrate, monster, traitor; True THAT!-You speak the truth; No such thing as a free lunch!-nothing is free; You WISH!- That is only your desire; Same to YA!-You are, or do, exactly the same. (I truly expected to hear “Dude” or “Back in the day,” which is the most ignorant of all phrases. If you don’t know it was back in 1920, or back in the 30’s, or 25 years ago, or back at the turn of the century, then just keep quiet. Using a phrase like “back in the day” doesn’t make you sound knowledgeable, intelligent, or credible.)
As to the song that keeps playing over and over again, it translates to let’s get drunk again when the flowers bloom. Honestly, that is such a crass translation for such beautiful, touching moments. I thought, let’s drink wine again, or let’s share wine again would be softer. The consequence of drunkenness is expected and doesn’t really need to be expressed as the outcome, and it is NOT very romantic.
I let many of the grammatical errors “slide” because I would not have a clue as to how to translate any language since I only speak English. I am in awe of anyone who speaks another language. But, I will point out one example: Phoenix asks Jin Mi, “Will you marry me?” She says, “You know I do.” Of course it should be, “You know I will.” This is of no consequence; I mean “no worries.” We knew what she meant.
I would have just liked the translation to have been a little more AUTHENTIC for the supposed era and a little CLASSIER for such a grand endeavor. These ARE Gods and Goddesses conversing, NOT common street hipsters, and since they are considering a second season, even if it is about the children, the verbal exchanges would still be antiquated, not contemporary.
Again, I think this is one of the finest offerings ever, and I am thankful to whomever translated this masterpiece into English, no matter how incongruous. It has been THE HIGHLIGHT of my 2018 Christmas season!
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This is not just another C-drama!
Wow.I remember binge-watching the entire 56 eps in 2 days. Now that speaks volume, even for a career binge-watcher like myself.
STORY:
If you like Eternal Love and Journey of Flower, this is the next to go on that watch-list. I normally find C-dramas a bit draggy about 1/3 way through but not this time. If you’ve seen Fighter of Destiny you’ll know what I’m talking about (no offence Luhan). This is a fairly structured plot with quality character development and irresistible cliff-hangers that left me on my tip-toes at the end of every ep. I can see that the director and scriptwriters are trying their best to stay true to the novel. Bravo.
CAST:
Not only do Jin Mi and Xu Feng look good together, they have chemistry. For me, couple chemistry is the main reason I’m in dramaland. A good chemistry would be able to make you laugh, cry and more than most scream in frustration if they’re not together.
Deng Lun has caught my attention ever since Princess Agents and I’m happy he finally landed an MC role in a big-budget historical drama. As for Yang Zhi, she is the perfect choice for this. As much as I enjoy seeing Zanilia and Yang Mi in beautiful historical costumes, Yang Zhi really brought out the essence of Flower Goddess while still remained refreshingly childlike and gullible.
Before I forget, the 2nd lead and other supporting actors are also very impressive. Run Yu and Sui He are extremely effective in moving the plot along at a steady pace while not being overly dramatic. I'm surprised they even got such a good young and fledgling actor to play the childish match-making god.
CINEMATOGRAPHY:
Breathtaking. Vibrant yet very subtle and delicate palette made the watching experience extremely surreal, reflecting much of the immortal world. The CGI is flawlessly incorporated and none of those cringy and awkward magic moments from outdated CGI. Costume design is spectacular with fabric layers light as feathers, capturing the swift body movements of spell incantations.
MUSIC:
Theme songs are not particularly catchy but still memorable and enhance the drama really well at crucial moments. I like the soundtrack sang by Yang Zhi (Love Frost) especially because it’s bitterly and nostalgically sweet. Otherwise, Unsullied by Mao Buyi really set the scene as the intro.
OVERALL:
Ashes of Love is definitely the epitome of what Chinese historical / fantasy dramas should be. Cdramas are normally 2 to 3 times longer than Kdramas. So in order to remain competitive within the Asian market as well as others, not only does the cinematography have to be outstanding the plot also has to have a strong backbone. Hopefully, this is just the beginning of the new era for world-class quality Cdramas. So far this should be my fav C-drama, not gonna lie.
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The best drama I've ever seen
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I hope Deng Lun and Yang zi can play together again pleaseee
This drama has no shortcomings to discuss, everything is perfect.
Beginning with the effects used, the storyline, the players in the story all have a perfect blend and good character.
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Spent too much effort into developing amazing villains but neglected to make the protagonists heroic
Seriously, show!!! A rich man feeding a starving orphan with leftovers doesn't make him heroic. It only makes the orphan looks more pitiful! You need to understand the difference between being nice and being noble/heroic. It's 45 episodes, but the male lead hasn't established himself as being worthy of my admiration. He had everything handed to him on a silver platter and the show never demanded anything from him to prove he was the hero. Meanwhile, everyone was entitled that the antagonist acted like a freaking Buddha... When you have an antagonist who was actually a nice guy, you need the protagonist to be more than just nice to prove he was better than the antagonist. The protagonist needs to do something the antagonist could not to prove he was the better man. It's not being done here. Instead, the show asked the antagonist something the male protagonist himself was incapable of doing. They even showed how nice the male protagonist was to the antagonist, to make you feel bad for the antagonist instead of to make the protagonist heroic. Why TF are you treating your male lead as a plot device to make the audience feel sorry for the antagonist?!!!It's not bad... Just infuriating that I wouldn't torture myself to rewatch!
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ANNOYING GIRL WITHOUT COMMON SENSE
The storyline was confusing on how the story was set up. OMGGGG!!! Don't get the started on the female lead. She was so stupid and obnoxious. Literally just because u don't know about love makes you literally retarded.The actress that played her made her so annoying to watch with the voice. The lead actor literally carried the show but didn't even get recognize as much. The Run Yu dude is like a straight up CREEEEPPPP!! He was literally so creepy about everything and wanting power. He was also an unnecessary character too. The worst part was definitely the ending. It did not make sense at all. The Demon Princess's love story was uneeded for. She was probably the best one tho because she was actually educated to not be a dumb dumb. Also the Run Yu guy's story was unnecessary because it made him even creeper!!!!! The cast was alright tho. The best ones were definitely the Fox Uncle and the Princess of the Bird Tribe. The Fox uncle was actually helping the couple get together but she was so dumb and always ruined things for herself then blames others. The Princess was WAYYYYYYYY prettier than the main girl and actually smart unlike the main girl. Overall would not watch again and guys just spare your time and WATCH SOMETHING ELSE!!!!!!Esta resenha foi útil para você?
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I tried watching this Drama t two times last year but gave up after 2-3 episodes as I was not interested in watching just another guy meet girl story where they fight, break up , meet again, and second reason was the main lead female voice it hurts in your ears as she has high pitch voice an d she cont talk. Hope she can do practice some voice moduling Dont know why every one thinks innocents means dumb.One can be innocent about love but intelligent. Ny way she is a good actress but she got the chance to show case her talents later.This story had good potential to become a good love story but after 10 such episodes story just take a turn there is thi sspsycho step brothe who wants revenge and he goes all bersek, illogically start planning doing cunning act. What made me upset was that I read some comment and some loves his act, ny way I wont like such psycho to be near me.
He goes mad and tried revenge because of his mother been treated badly by emperor an d his wife but he himself do worst thing later. He is the good actor though but sorry I didn't liked him in most of the scene and he was given more footage than other main lead, dont know if the story in book is same, he in-fact suck life out of every scenes heis there. Director could have cut some scene and made it short and beautiful. I liked his acting only in last three episodes
main lead is a good actor but he gor good scenes to show case his talents only at the end he can act but wish more scene between main couple would have shown.
real story is at the end where spiritual love was explain when that psycho brother says if I would have met her first may be story would have been diff, but my dear friend thats the whole story the main couple's love was spiritual soul mate kind of love and that was beyond time an d life. Why and how some one can think that if u spend more time with the girl will fall in love. he treats his lady love like commodity and still cry in self pity I hope in second part this character is stronger
Scene an dialogues between two main leads are good specially the scene when he is demon and she comes one night an dhe kissed her and call her by another girl name that really hurt the most and was picturised well with some good acting there.
But scene stealers are the main negative female girl she is pretty and amazing acting by her, anotehr girl the Demon princess is also pretty an d good actress
but I love the most The moon uncle he brightens up every scene some good acting would love to see him again
so watch this but u can skip some in between episode last 8 episodes are good
I don't understand on you tube there are 63 episode an d another websites only 60
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The story started off very goofy and comical and became more serious maybe in the 20s-30s? I liked a lot of the leads but I am so over obsessive unrealistic 3rd wheels. who just cant give up and move on! Both 3rd wheels became annoying and I really felt Runyu's behavior didnt fit his character. He does experience a lot of stuff but he gets beyond blinded by love.
The Emperor and Empress are both disgusting heavenly beings.
I am surprised I even finished this drama...I had high expectations and they were not met. I will say maybe it is because even though I found some plot pieces annoying I never really found the drama slow expect some parts in the mortal realm and the last 2 episodes .
Music was okay. I loved the costumes and the scenery.
I look forward to seeing the cast in other dramas. I was very impressed with the actor playing Runyu pretending to be a different character in disguise as Runyu. He did a great job in that scene and you could tell right away who he was!
Will not watch again and probably wont really recommend .
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I have such mixed feelings about this show overall. When I should have been sobbing and crying... I wasn't. When I was supposed to empathsise with a character, I didn't. But then at the same time it could be the environment in which I watched it... or was it the story?I really did enjoy the show overall though a few things niggled at me a little, and couldn't quite my finger on it.
What I liked:
- Xufeng really grew on me. OMG he is so HOT... His costumes, his hair styles, his attitude, his EVERYTHING. This guy is amazing! He is what made me keep watching
- the complexities of the storyline that left me wondering what next?
- how the baddies get their dues in the best ways possible
- the sad older prince story
- loved the father/daughter relationship with Jinmi and the Water Immortal
What I disliked:
- I just don't know that it sat so well with me how the main character, Jinmi, was the way she was. I almost wanted to say "you deserve this" when she realises her mistakes. At least she regrets, repents and really PAYS for her blindness
- also didn't really LOVE how 'weakling' she seemed in this, how people were usually saving her.... I just really didn't feel like she deserved EVERYONE to sacrifice and want her when she was a little annoying?
- that everyone seemed to be in love with everyone - literally everyone! Mr Snake and the Bird Princess wtf..
- whatever happened to Mr Snake? I really liked him! They needed to give us a 'what happened to him' bit at the end
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The story was interesting and different, they were parts that were kinda similar to ten miles of peach blossoms but for me it was mostly a storyline and a world in it's own standing. I rated the storyline 8/10 because the first 45/50 episodes or so I was excited to know what will happen next. It was thrilling and then it goes down hill, the storyline becomes underwhelming and messy as if their trying to come up with anything to stretch the drama to 60+ episodes.
Acting/Cast
I rated it 8/10 because I felt as though something was lacking with the male lead. He is good looking and don't get me wrong he can act but he wasn't captivating enough for me personally. I felt as though something was missing. But for some people a good looking guy saying his lines is enough. But with that said the casting for everyone else, was brilliant.
Music
Really good, set to tone well.
Rewatch Value
Honestly, i cannot see myself watching this again, considering I started skipping the last few episodes.
Overall
I think it's a decent drama, if you like c-drama's or liked ten miles i think give it a go. The beginning half was actually quite good, there might be a few boring episodes here and there but carry on it will pick up.
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Toxic dumpster-fire of a love story that needs to be burnt with pure glass fire
STORY AND CHARACTERSThe show just wasn't that great. The story dragged on for 60 episodes with unnecessarily long story arcs that could've been cut down to one or two episodes. It took fifteen episodes to reveal who Jin Mi was. The girl had no character development. Her one talent was to inadvertently get the two most eligible bachelors to pine after her. This is such a stupid trope because it is completely undeserved.
One of the creepiest things was everyone going along with Jinmi getting engaged to Runyu. She was a child in a woman's body who didn't know the difference between friendship and romantic love. Everyone knew she was a moron but they still went along with her agreeing to the engagement, even though they should have known she had no idea what she was agreeing to. The fact that the flower realm raised her to be a blissful idiot was extremely shortsighted too. Jinmi was supposed to be protected from any future heartbreak, but she was given no tools to be able to protect herself from it. Everything and everyone was stupid.
The mortal arc unnecessarily dragged on for 10+ episodes. The whole point of it should have been to move the character development forward and to show that no matter how much Jin Mi and Xu Feng were separated, they would always find their way back to each other. Everything else was irrelevant. We didn't need to see the drama inside the mortal lives of immortals who were going back to being immortal in just a few episodes.
The chemistry between Jinmi and Xufeng was very stale. Watching them together was as exciting as watching the paint dry. Jinmi was pretty, but she wasn't particularly bright and there was nothing special about her. She didn't even know what gender she was at the beginning. Their kisses resembled toddlers pecking each other on the lips. Everything was dry and passionless.
After the mortal arc, the only thing left to look forward to was the emperor and empress getting their comeuppance. But the cringe didn't end there. The biggest problem with the writing was that good characters did very awful things, nobody held them accountable, and the story never addressed their bad behavior. We were supposed to just ignore it and continue cheering for team Jinmi/Xufeng. A perfect example was Xufeng getting into Jinmi's pants. I didn't fault them for falling in love. But I found it reprehensible that Xufeng did not wait for Jinmi to break her engagement with Runyu before sleeping with her. She was still a moron. But he reached a whole new level of awfulness for treating his brother that way. By doing this, Xufeng showed that he was just as immoral, callous, selfish, and entitled as his crappy parents.
On the other hand, the writers went out of their way to demonize Runyu and to portray him as a villain. All of the characters who sided with Runyu and complained about how awful the heaven was suddenly decided to abandon him after he deposed the emperor. The writers never explained why. Characters just randomly decided that they wanted to go a different way. This made them look very cowardly and cynical. Meanwhile, everyone kept cheering for Xufeng, who was written as the golden boy who could do no wrong.. He also seemed to forget that he was a prince with responsibilities. Chasing after Jinmi was all he cared about.
In episode 45, Jinmi finally realized that she was in love with Xufeng. But, really, who cares at this point? I was honestly fed up with their bs. They did Runyu dirty repeatedly and nobody held either of them accountable. Instead, everyone judged Runyu and held him to some arbitrary moral standard when he did nothing wrong. Jinmi ended up marrying him for no good reason, even though she was told she didn't have to. Runyu still kept holding on to her even after she ran off to find Xufeng. "But what about our marriage?" Seriously? I sympathized with Runyu a lot but him still trying to hold on to her knowing she was fully committed to his brother was an idiotic plot development. He should've let her go as soon as he found out she slept with Xufeng.
The drama has a terrible message. Deposing callous and self-serving tyrants is bad. But, acting without honor and a sense of duty is ok. Also, blind favoritism, betraying family members, abandoning friends, and breaking promises is acceptable and even encouraged. By episode 47, I was done. I knew that Jinmi and Xufeng were going to end up together, but I couldn't fathom why. His family killed her family and she stabbed him in the back for thinking he killed her father. They crossed the point of no return so many times. Their relationship was based on betraying those closest to them, abandoning their duties, and having no faith in each other. What kind of values are these and why were we supposed to root for them?
ACTING
The acting by the two main leads was mediocre. Xufeng always had a blank look when he was pouring his heart out to Jinmi. If he was telling her what he ate for breakfast that morning, we wouldn't know the difference. His expression conveyed no emotion of love, despair, confusion, or heartbreak. It was an awful performance, just like most of his acting throughout the drama. Yang Zi's portrayal of Jinmi wasn't good either. She had no personality.
Luo Yunxi delivered a solid and sympathetic performance as Runyu. He is very good at playing tragic characters. I thought his performance in this drama was better than in Till the End of the Moon. And Kathy Chow was fire as the Queen B---ch. RIP
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I just finished it and it was touching and beautiful, with great CGI, good acting and chemistry as everyone says buuuuut....
What I don't agree with is how good the story was. It kept reminding me of "ten miles of peach blossoms" from time to time and had clichés which I'm not really fond of.
It was a great show overall.. but it's definitely not one my favourites. The bad guys were so extreme and so persistent and I've seen so many dramas with such characters that I'm sick of it. I guess this is the main drawback (for me). I wanted to drop it one or 2 times but I didn't as a marathoned the show and I don't regret watching it.
What really I liked about the plot is the ending: fate happened but good choices were made so the ending was also good. I don't want to add spoilers so I won't add details.
Some parts are unique and nice, adding colours to the story and I have to say I'm glad Deng Lun got the ml role in this drama cause he was amazing. All the actors did a good job, the production is very good and I guess overall.. the story is good.
9.5/10 overall.
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